Originally Posted by ComairFO

Umm, that was last year's HR Derby. It was still one heck of a performance, though, and worth watching again.

Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse

Travelnet: When I go to the authorize buddies page and click an unused pass the "authorize" button is still gray and cannot be clicked... How do I authorize them now?

Originally Posted by Av8rking

I just got off the phone with Delta reservations and they told me it would be at least 2 months until you can authorize a buddy, and sometime in 2010 until you could book a buddy on any Northwest flight!!! I was told this would be a seamless integration?!?!

Originally Posted by Boomer

Take someone that's been here 5-7 years, on reserve for 3 of them, got real close to upgrading in 2007 and 2008, but is still in the right seat and is now looking at commuting to JFnK to sit reserve.

Now imagine this person has real doubts about his future at Comair (I know, it's a stretch ). They know they can't feed their family any longer at Comair, but on the other hand they know any growth will put them in the left seat and the last 5-7 years will not go to waste.

This guy can take a voluntary furlough (assuming ALPA gives him the option), do something else to pay the bills and watch his kids grow up instead of sitting at JFnK, and if Delta has a momentary lapse of judgment and awards aircraft to Comair, he will be one of the first to go back.

Worst case - Comair continues to shrink at 25% a year until it's gone - at least he hasn't wasted another two years here.

Given the circumstances, that might be the best he can make out of a crappy career decision in 2002/2003.

That guy would be in his right mind to take the voluntary.

Originally Posted by Av8rking

If you take the furlough you will be stapled below others that are active in your own seniority list even though they are junior to you!!! (Considering there has never been an ALPA merger were the furloughed pilots didn't get stapled!!!)

Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse

I understand that Bubba, but I'm furloughed and looked at how much it would be a couple days ago and it said $250. Sooo today when I went to book it, the webiste said 21 dollars.

Originally Posted by Av8rking

I understand what you are saying but in today's market why would you give up your job up after at least 5 years without a guaranteed recall date?

Because that would be a safer bet than spending another 6 years as a Comair FO, just for that elusive 1000TPIC. Many Comair pilots have skills outside of aviation that pay much better, even in this economy. I don't need a recall date, I'd be content to sit on the sidelines and watch IF Delta shrinks Comair. If Delta rewards Comair, I'll consider taking a recall at that time.

From what has been said by the company, if you are furloughed you can basically not even consider a recall for the time being.

That works for me. I don't want to get a real job, start repairing my 401k, and then have Comair call back in a month.

Not to mention the fact that I have directly heard from JB himself that they are not going to transfer all that have been displaced to JFK. Let's just say on the off-chance there is actually a merger between us and Mesaba. If you take the furlough you will be stapled below others that are active in your own seniority list even though they are junior to you!!! (Considering there has never been an ALPA merger were the furloughed pilots didn't get stapled!!!)

That is certainly a question I will ask my reps. By taking a voluntary furlough are we surrendering our seniority number? It's one thing to go to the bottom of the list behind another group's pilots, but can we really be slid down our own seniority list? I'll admit I don't have the answer to that one.

Plus, are you for real that after 6 to 7 years you would be on reserve in JFK?

After years of Comair shennanigans, I am very real about that. Maybe not this fall, but the trend for next year is not "favorable".

I think you would still be a lineholder (especially considering what I have heard about the displacements to JFK not happening.) Take it for what its worth, but after 5-7 years at Comair in the current state of things I would never consider putting myself in that jeopardy.

We all have different trigger points based on our finances, family status, years to retirement, "Faith" that Comair/Delta is looking out for you, etc. Right now I think being displaced to JFnK for 35,000/year would probably bump me over my trigger point.

P.S. Is this also assuming you are allowed to draw unemployment if you take the voluntary furlough?

I'd take a voluntary to make boatloads of money in a different profession, not to have some time off.

I have had a few too many...

The problem may be I haven't had enough.

Originally Posted by Av8rking

Let's just say on the off-chance there is actually a merger between us and Mesaba. If you take the furlough you will be stapled below others that are active in your own seniority list even though they are junior to you!!! (Considering there has never been an ALPA merger were the furloughed pilots didn't get stapled!!!)

Originally Posted by Av8rking

Not to mention the fact that I have directly heard from JB himself that they are not going to transfer all that have been displaced to JFK.

Originally Posted by Spooledup

I was supposed to be transferred September 1 in the last group to get transferred. My transfer along with everyone else was moved up to July1.

I think everyone that was to be transferred has been transferred unless there are some guys that were displaced out of the 700/900 that have to be trained before they can transfer.