bubba

i agree with ur statement and if you were to ask me 100 years down the road when i'm part of the 500, you would get a different answer then.

 

It isn't just QOL and pay for the top that is the concern, it IS the whole group. If we agree (not that WE agreed last time, it was stuck to us by the MEC, but I digress) to fly lower line values,where is the guarantee for more days off? I should get more days off with a 77 or less hour line than I do with a 86 hour line, shouldn't I?? If not, I'll be spending my life away from home with nothing to show for it. How about improvements to the RIG to compensate for more time away from home with less flying?

Is the company trying to negotiate anything besides "take lower line values-OR ELSE....."

We have to keep this a job that is worth coming back to or the furloughees are the "lucky ones" who are now motivated, and have the time to find a job elsewhere, and will be Sr. to me at "the next airline".

NO, I don't for a second believe they are "lucky", this garbage is affecting
all of us to different degrees, furloughees the most severely presently. They have my utmost sympathy.

 

From what everyone is saying, crew forcasting is telling the furloughed guys not to expect a call back. Is this true?

Being that our airplanes are leaving the property, the only way I see people receiving call backs would be if we were given more airplanes. I don't think Comair is even optomistic about the united flying anymore, or they wouldn't be giving airplanes back.

 

Haven't talked to Forcasting so i don't know what they're saying. Even IF they said it, it's only true until they get their next set of orders (refer to cuts/growth/cuts in July/August time frame.

I agree, if aircraft continue to leave the whole discussion is pretty much moot and even the most Sr. pilots have a limited shelf life. Let's see, at present rates, 200+ gone since August (when dis. notices came out) , that's 66/month, carry the 2, minus mv^2, plus the inverse of the rotaion speed, equals this place a ground service and mx only company by this time next year.

 

Honestly, I am so glad I am furloughed. Of course its not fun to not have a paycheck but as stated earlier, I am looking for a new job. My app is in a Mesaba and I hope to be successful there. I have sat reserve, short call, for a year at Comair. It has honestly been the worst year of my life. I have never felt so dis-respected and so far away from what I thought this dream was. I will absolutely not come back to Comair just to sit for another 1.5 years on reserve, then wait another 6 to upgrade, just to sit another 6 on reserve as Captain.

My recommendation to anyone at Comair who will go back on reserve status, or especially if you are in that new set of 86 or whatever, get your application in elsewhere now-- before all the spots are filled. Atleast maybe you can get it in in enough time to have some people below you.

But there again, those same exact thoughts (have some people below me) were on my mind when I applied at Comair during the big hiring boom.

 

The min line value is a pay-cut....no pay cuts shall be taken! I don't care if I go back to reserve or get canned.

 

Come to Mesaba and be based in DTW where I'm probably heading.

 

No thanks I don't want to do FO pay there...it is pretty abysmal....I had my chance last year. I applied to Compass...I would go there.

 

We at Comair have this mind-set about our pay scales. As pointed out to me by a very good friend who is a pilot for Freedom, "Although our pay is lower than standard, we are upgrading guys in 2 years where you are taking 5-6. So yes, I do make less as an FO but I will make more as a captain in 2 years while you sit at FO pay at Comair until eternity." So with the big picture in mind, who is really making less money?

Obviously nobody is upgrading that fast anywhere now, and our conversation took place at the begenning of the year when times were good. But really, even when times were good Comair upgrades were still for freekin ever.

The industry will bounce back, historically it always has, its just a matter of being in a good position when it does. Staying at Comair, IMO, is like stumbling over a dollar just to pick up a dime.

 

heading180..u lost me with tripping of a dollar for a dime explane