Comair updates?
11-10-2008 | 11:34 AM
#9711
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: blueJet
11-10-2008 | 11:41 AM
#9712
Furlough line holder
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737
..so no
this isn't a result of that expiring.
11-10-2008 | 11:44 AM
#9713
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: EMB 175 FO
Not exactly, he's fine. He'll continue to get 100 hours per month and not be required to fly one single block hour. If he picks up a trip, he'll get premium pay for the trip. Sound fair? I think not. Again, one of the few MEC's that has that provision written into the contract and they still complain the company is stealing money from them.
11-10-2008 | 11:48 AM
#9714
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 37
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From: EMB 175 FO
11-10-2008 | 11:48 AM
#9715
Permanent Ready Reserve
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Upright and Locked
11-10-2008 | 11:56 AM
#9716
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2008
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I'll place my job on it, that even if the company got 76 hour min line values, we would still be furloughing. Not only that they would build our lines to 70 hours and just negate that agreement. It's a big fight, but I think management is getting what it wants..... They want everyone to leave! They have a mission and they are just carrying it out.
So what happens if we all got 76 hour min lines and 50 furloughs came back. Would everything be good. Everyone happy? Didn't think so... Then the next 50 guys on the list would say we need to agree to 70 hour min line values to get another 50 jobs back.
It's every man for himself right now. ALPA is losing it's credibility and the company is loving ever bit of it.
So what happens if we all got 76 hour min lines and 50 furloughs came back. Would everything be good. Everyone happy? Didn't think so... Then the next 50 guys on the list would say we need to agree to 70 hour min line values to get another 50 jobs back.
It's every man for himself right now. ALPA is losing it's credibility and the company is loving ever bit of it.
11-10-2008 | 11:59 AM
#9717
Permanent Ready Reserve
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From: Upright and Locked
Comair wants everyone to leave, yes. Who is leaving? About 300 junior pilots involuntarily or a handful of middle of the road guys lucky enough to have somewhere to move on to.
The people they are trying to force out without putting up the money to get them to quit are never going anywhere. It would make more sense for them to ride the company into the ground than to go elsewhere and lose seniority and pay.
On a side note, the JFK bid packets for December have a min line of 77. Whats the big deal if it goes down 2 hours to 75 for a few more months (assuming the LOA is extended for a set amount of time)
The people they are trying to force out without putting up the money to get them to quit are never going anywhere. It would make more sense for them to ride the company into the ground than to go elsewhere and lose seniority and pay.
On a side note, the JFK bid packets for December have a min line of 77. Whats the big deal if it goes down 2 hours to 75 for a few more months (assuming the LOA is extended for a set amount of time)
11-10-2008 | 12:01 PM
#9718
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2008
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I tend to agree with ALPA, and I am one of the ones furloughed. Those who have been with the company (top 500) deserve their good pay, seniority, and everything else that comes along with what they have earned. Some moons ago they also made their start in this industry, went through the ups and downs of their time, paid their dues, and 40-60 pilots just doesn't seem worth the sacrifice. Furloughs in the airline industry is not anything new.
11-10-2008 | 12:13 PM
#9719
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2008
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Comair wants everyone to leave, yes. Who is leaving? About 300 junior pilots involuntarily or a handful of middle of the road guys lucky enough to have somewhere to move on to.
The people they are trying to force out without putting up the money to get them to quit are never going anywhere. It would make more sense for them to ride the company into the ground than to go elsewhere and lose seniority and pay.
On a side note, the JFK bid packets for December have a min line of 77. Whats the big deal if it goes down 2 hours to 75 for a few more months (assuming the LOA is extended for a set amount of time)
The people they are trying to force out without putting up the money to get them to quit are never going anywhere. It would make more sense for them to ride the company into the ground than to go elsewhere and lose seniority and pay.
On a side note, the JFK bid packets for December have a min line of 77. Whats the big deal if it goes down 2 hours to 75 for a few more months (assuming the LOA is extended for a set amount of time)
As far as the people that they want to leave being bought out, it will never happen. The place is being liquidated. They wouldn't pay tons of money to buy out senior guys and then close the doors. Instead they are shedding whatever weight they can so water can replace the empty space in the ship forcing it to sink. And yes, DS will go down with this ship.
Aren't we overdue for a net conference?
11-10-2008 | 12:51 PM
#9720
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 876
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From: NOYDB
I tend to agree with ALPA, and I am one of the ones furloughed. Those who have been with the company (top 500) deserve their good pay, seniority, and everything else that comes along with what they have earned. Some moons ago they also made their start in this industry, went through the ups and downs of their time, paid their dues, and 40-60 pilots just doesn't seem worth the sacrifice. Furloughs in the airline industry is not anything new.
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