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Old 11-12-2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by par8head
keep in mind that entire paper that you posted is one man's opinion who is not known to be associated with management nor ALPA, It is pretty much the same as every one posting on this board (except he has writing skillz)

Yes and while that might be true, several people asked to see it and this was the only way to show them. They are free to use their own judgment as they seem fit. While Mr Ford does have his own opinion, AT LEAST HE IS DOING SOMETHING!!

I'll give you this too, Mr. Ford is doing a heck of a lot more communicating then our own union is. What I really want to hear now from our union is if what he stated is true?? Anyone to let a flush-back program into our contract at this time is A FREAKIN IDIOT!!! DO YOU HEAR ME!!!!! A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!!! The only thing a flow-through program right now would do for us is put mainline Delta pilots in OUR seats! As soon as this merger is through and Delta says "oh gee whizz these DC-9's sure do suck the gas" They will downsize the fleet of junk NW has brought in with them and send all the pilots to RJ school.

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Old 11-12-2008 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by par8head
keep in mind that entire paper that you posted is one man's opinion who is not known to be associated with management nor ALPA, It is pretty much the same as every one posting on this board (except he has writing skillz)
Keep in mind that Mr. Ford has been at Comair long enough to see what works, and what doesn't. His opinions are probably backed up by more facts than the average person on these boards could supply.

So, we have 206 on furlough now with a up to 120 additional furloughs in January. Is the latest and greatest from Delta saying that the 120 will be 150, or 150 in addition to the already 300 announced?
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Old 11-12-2008 | 02:14 PM
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Actually, the 120 became 86 (for now). My count is 292 on the street sometime during the first quarter of '09. Subject to change, of course.
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Old 11-12-2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy143
Actually, the 120 became 86 (for now). My count is 292 on the street sometime during the first quarter of '09. Subject to change, of course.

Where did the 86 come from?
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Old 11-12-2008 | 02:50 PM
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The 86 comes from the latest letter of downgrades our beloved company sent us. I don't mean to sound rude but do you live in a cave? (Excuse me if you are on furlough)
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Old 11-12-2008 | 03:09 PM
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can anyone pick up a highspeed this friday (the 14th) for me? Its to boston with 8:01 on the ground. Ill pay $50 for someone to pick it up. Im in a wedding saturday and "due to staffing" i cant get out of it. Thanks.
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Old 11-12-2008 | 03:17 PM
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i suggest everyone that is getting this letter to do something like this.

The Seventh Sense: Paying With Spider Drawings

or this one if the other doesnt work

Broke Man Tries Paying Bill With a Picture of a Spider - Urlesque
Very Funny. The only thing that would make this tactic better would be to wait several days between each email, thereby drawing it out for weeeeeeks.
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Old 11-12-2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cfiguy11
can anyone pick up a highspeed this friday (the 14th) for me? Its to boston with 8:01 on the ground. Ill pay $50 for someone to pick it up. Im in a wedding saturday and "due to staffing" i cant get out of it. Thanks.
CALL IN SICK. There are 204 guys on furlough, you'll make more money using sick time.

Make the airline use its "excess staffing", don't offer what is essentially open-time to pilots who willl be villified (and rightly so) if they take it.
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Old 11-12-2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cfiguy11
can anyone pick up a highspeed this friday (the 14th) for me? Its to boston with 8:01 on the ground. Ill pay $50 for someone to pick it up. Im in a wedding saturday and "due to staffing" i cant get out of it. Thanks.
Call in sick...make them staff the airline properly. We have guys on furlough and more to come so there is no excuse to not allow a trip drop. If you were to become sick on that day then they will need to locate a reserve to pick up. That
is what reserves are for. IMO.
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Old 11-12-2008 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pantera
The 86 comes from the latest letter of downgrades our beloved company sent us. I don't mean to sound rude but do you live in a cave? (Excuse me if you are on furlough)
86 downgrades doesn't necessarily mean another 86 furloughs; it probably means more. As someone pointed out about 200 pages ago, when the company is heavy by 86 crews, they send 86 Captains back to the right seat, creating a surplus.

With two planes and two bases, there will be some shuffling as CVG CAs bid JFK CA rather than CVG FO, etc. When it is all figured out they will be fat 172 FOs (the original 86 + the 86 new downgrades). Then they'll take one last glance at staffing and announce who gets F'ed.

Or that's how I think it works.

That, plus Comair's spokeswoman saying 150 pilot furloughs in addition to the current 330 FO and FA furloughs.
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