This is one of the most asinine statements I have ever seen on the internet. Don't join the service, you wouldn't last a week...

 

GROW UP A LITTLE?!!! Your more mature coworkers at DAL have been smart enough to understand that the people being effected by this down-sizing weren't EVEN ON PROPERTY when all that went down.

My MEC is my responsibility? Before I'm hired? Open your ears, sonny!!Those responsible will still be on property after we're all gone.

I hope you're not representative of the quality of newhire @ DAL!!!

 

To start AF UPT training you have to be IN UPT by 30 (selected, gone to OTS, IFS etc) and in your class started by 30, so typically they dont look at people over like 28 bc of how long it takes...I heard there are waivers but I have never met anyone with one. I dont know anything about the army or navy, but I think its older to be a NAV in the AF... If you have questions on the reserves/guard shoot me a PM, Ive helped a lot of my former airline friends get started.

 

There's a time and place for this sort of thing. The day an announcement is made that hundreds of pilots are losing their jobs is neither the time nor place.

Grow some class. You're an embarrassment to your fellow pilots, and you're making them all look bad.

 

When your spouse, or kids, or parents, or any loved ones die, I'm going to come to their funeral, stand on their newly dug grave, and cheer and applaud that they are finally dead because they did some wrong things a long time ago.


And I refuse to be held responsible for things that happened when I was still in school by people that are no longer associated with the company.

 

Tony-
You are absolutely correct. However,
There are still hard feelings among Delta pilots about what happened in 2002.
Hundreds of pilots lost their jobs back then too.
I don't know RacerX but if he was one of them, he deserves some leeway.

 

um, ya, too much dude

 

Heyas Tony,

Good question.

The answer is that DAL needs ONE place where they can pick up the phone, and have lift in a market the next day to protect a slot/pair or another market.

They can't quite do that with a contract carrier. It looks like Comair is being re-wound into the same thing that Piedmont is used for at USAir.

Nu

 

Yes...you ARE responsible for YOUR MEC...Racer X.

Let's remind everyone of the DAL MEC that took EAL jets, routes and gates...and NO EAL pilots. Stand up group, they were. Only into the mid 90's did they take a few pilots. UAL on the other hand? OPENED THEIR DOORS the minute the strike came down and hired HUNDREDS.

Let's not kid anyone. There's a reason that Claude Sullivan took a break from Ford Harrison last year to work with DAL management and the MEC. It was to find a way to rid DAL of the regional carriers and shift the jobs to mainline.

Welcome to "Taking it Back."

What Ernie Gann wrote about DAL hasn't changed.

DAL is watching the Aer Lingus experiment. They will put low cost foreign crews in DAL jets flying internationally. That will flush those pilots back to domestic and the domestic guys into the RJ's.

Once again, those who you consider "unworthy" will be shoved to the street. Some will find jobs, some won't.

They ALL will remember how their union "brothers" stood up for them. How they "took it back."

And when you find your management won't capitulate to your demands...you will have them...you will beg your "brothers" to stand with you...after all, you're fellow "union men"...right????

Don't worry.

They'll remember.

 

I don't know, in concept it looks pretty similar to what United did announcing that they were parking their 737 fleet and furloughing roughly 2 years before they'll be closing their merger with CO. Besides there aren't a ton of players left and most are busy over the next year or two. SkyWest buying integrating X-Jet, Republic still working with MidEx and Frontier, TSA with Compass, Pinnacle with Mesaba and other certificate changes, Air Willy probably tapped by their UsAirways deal, Mesa in BK. Who would be capable/willing to step up to the plate? Also if Delta is that set in really reducing 50 seaters, isn't the projected remaining amount of 70/90's curiously similar to the amount of 50's SkyWest operates for Delta? That could be another way they plan to try and get around the remaining crews all being on max pay scales. Absolutely amazing(not in a good way) how much has changed over the times in this industry. It's a dirty game, good luck to everyone.