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Old 05-11-2009 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Have you all heard about how the company tried to get a Flight Attendant to put a ticket from EWR to IAH this morning on her own credit card? I'm calling horse **** on that one. What is this place coming to? They also called her early and asked her to report 30 minutes later. (The company had over 48 hours to have a flight attendant ready this morning for a flight from IAH to JFK and called this poor girl at 4:30 this morning to displace her. She said the flight went out late while waiting for her to arrive on a Continental flight.)

Heard 20 something FA's quit already since May 1st.

Talked to a few guys today in CVG that didn't make their second attempt to get to JFK.

How many cancellations were there yesterday? Some were probably do to weather, but others were probably due to being understaffed, mismanaged flight crews and pure incompetence of the schedulers.

Rant over.
Woah... easy there. I know blaming the scheduler's "imcompetence" is always the most popular thing, but there was a lot more to it. They had a last minute sick/FM/fatigue call in Texas, and couldn't get anyone there for the report. Being a CR9, one FA doesn't cut it. And, I was told the company was buying the ticket, so the "her own credit card" thing isn't legit. In fact, quite a few people stayed very late just to get that whole thing set up, since it was something that doesn't happen very often. After all my defending, I'm quite glad to not have to deal with these sort of things anymore.
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Old 05-11-2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu
Woah... easy there. I know blaming the scheduler's "imcompetence" is always the most popular thing, but there was a lot more to it. They had a last minute sick/FM/fatigue call in Texas, and couldn't get anyone there for the report. Being a CR9, one FA doesn't cut it. And, I was told the company was buying the ticket, so the "her own credit card" thing isn't legit. In fact, quite a few people stayed very late just to get that whole thing set up, since it was something that doesn't happen very often. After all my defending, I'm quite glad to not have to deal with these sort of things anymore.

What are you doing? You are ruining it!! The truth is never as much fun as the rumour!!
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Old 05-11-2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu
Woah... easy there. I know blaming the scheduler's "imcompetence" is always the most popular thing, but there was a lot more to it. They had a last minute sick/FM/fatigue call in Texas, and couldn't get anyone there for the report. Being a CR9, one FA doesn't cut it. And, I was told the company was buying the ticket, so the "her own credit card" thing isn't legit. In fact, quite a few people stayed very late just to get that whole thing set up, since it was something that doesn't happen very often. After all my defending, I'm quite glad to not have to deal with these sort of things anymore.
Hate to break it to ya, but that is not what happened. I was part of the crew there good fella. One of our FA's called in sick on day one. On day two we picked up another FA in JFK and she flew to TX with us. Then while we stayed in TX for 33 hours, she left early on day 3 to fly back to JFK. So the company (scheduling) knew from 21:00 on day 2 that we were going to need another FA on day 4 to operate out of TX. And yes, while it was the company paying for the ticket, someone on the company side dropped the ball and the ticket didn't get purchased. That is when they asked the FA to put the ticket on her credit card. After she replied with a definitate "NO" the company did what they needed to do to purchase the ticket.

Keep defending he company. Poor another glass....
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Old 05-11-2009 | 01:54 PM
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I got wondering about how many people are in bad standing with the union after seeing the election email. It said there were only 764 eligible pilots. So with somewhere around 1080 pilots 326 couldn't vote. Who else can't vote besides bad standing, new hires which there are none and management?

With a whopping 36 people voting its good knowing ALPA is strong at comair
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Old 05-11-2009 | 03:35 PM
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Comair’s Idea of Properly Staffed:
Use every reserve pilot and FA every day
Move every reserve pilot and FA soft day off so they cannot plan anything outside of work
Fly every reserve pilot and FA a minimum of 70 hours per month but not to exceed 76 hours per month
Junior man 5 to 10 pilots and FA’s per day to remind them that holding a line does not mean anything
Cancel 3% to 4% of flights everyday due to lack of crews
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Old 05-11-2009 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu
Woah... easy there. I know blaming the scheduler's "imcompetence" is always the most popular thing.
It is popular for a reason
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Old 05-11-2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Hate to break it to ya, but that is not what happened. I was part of the crew there good fella. One of our FA's called in sick on day one. On day two we picked up another FA in JFK and she flew to TX with us. Then while we stayed in TX for 33 hours, she left early on day 3 to fly back to JFK. So the company (scheduling) knew from 21:00 on day 2 that we were going to need another FA on day 4 to operate out of TX. And yes, while it was the company paying for the ticket, someone on the company side dropped the ball and the ticket didn't get purchased. That is when they asked the FA to put the ticket on her credit card. After she replied with a definitate "NO" the company did what they needed to do to purchase the ticket.

Keep defending he company. Poor another glass....
Well, if that's the case... I'm just going off what I was told as it was happening. And, for the record, I'm not defending the company... I'm defending my (ex) coworkers and friends, who haven't been as fortunate as I to move on to a better place. Like I said, I really enjoy not having to deal with that stuff anymore. And, also for the record, I've seen just as many cases of pilot incometence as I've seen from schedulers. Can't even begin to count the amount of times I've heard "You only got 7 hours of rest, and reported, knowing you were illegal?" Sometimes circuses have audience participation, my friends.
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Old 05-11-2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu
Well, if that's the case... I'm just going off what I was told as it was happening. And, for the record, I'm not defending the company... I'm defending my (ex) coworkers and friends, who haven't been as fortunate as I to move on to a better place. Like I said, I really enjoy not having to deal with that stuff anymore. And, also for the record, I've seen just as many cases of pilot incometence as I've seen from schedulers. Can't even begin to count the amount of times I've heard "You only got 7 hours of rest, and reported, knowing you were illegal?" Sometimes circuses have audience participation, my friends.
How sure are you that it's pilot incompetence and not just a crew that knows how to beat the system? (i.e. putting themselves on a high speed?)

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Old 05-11-2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu
Well, if that's the case... I'm just going off what I was told as it was happening. And, for the record, I'm not defending the company... I'm defending my (ex) coworkers and friends, who haven't been as fortunate as I to move on to a better place. Like I said, I really enjoy not having to deal with that stuff anymore. And, also for the record, I've seen just as many cases of pilot incometence as I've seen from schedulers. Can't even begin to count the amount of times I've heard "You only got 7 hours of rest, and reported, knowing you were illegal?" Sometimes circuses have audience participation, my friends.
I understand where you are coming from, but if I went with everything upper level has told me at this company I would be really confused right now. I would have probably also lost my certificates.
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Old 05-11-2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8rking
How sure are you that's that pilot's incompetence or just a crew that knows how to beat the system??? (i.e. putting them selves on a high speed?)(Due to scheduling miscues?)
well, I'm pretty good at figuring out rest, since that's pretty much all I did for nearly my whole three years there. I'm not saying the high-speed change is never a factor (I stayed out of those issues)... the ones I'm talking about are the 10 hour layovers that run several hours late (and I'm sure you can figure out at least one of the city pairs involved), and the crew reporting at the original report, knowing they needed at least eight.

TurboDog: You have a very valid point. That's why I made it a point to put very low stock in what the higher ups told me (quite often they had a isse of finding a certain body part with both hands). The things I was hearing came straight from the people working the issue... schedulers making the changes, the hotel people making the reservations (at least that was the plan).
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