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Old 05-11-2009, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu View Post
Woah... easy there. I know blaming the scheduler's "imcompetence" is always the most popular thing.
It is popular for a reason
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:19 PM
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Hate to break it to ya, but that is not what happened. I was part of the crew there good fella. One of our FA's called in sick on day one. On day two we picked up another FA in JFK and she flew to TX with us. Then while we stayed in TX for 33 hours, she left early on day 3 to fly back to JFK. So the company (scheduling) knew from 21:00 on day 2 that we were going to need another FA on day 4 to operate out of TX. And yes, while it was the company paying for the ticket, someone on the company side dropped the ball and the ticket didn't get purchased. That is when they asked the FA to put the ticket on her credit card. After she replied with a definitate "NO" the company did what they needed to do to purchase the ticket.

Keep defending he company. Poor another glass....
Well, if that's the case... I'm just going off what I was told as it was happening. And, for the record, I'm not defending the company... I'm defending my (ex) coworkers and friends, who haven't been as fortunate as I to move on to a better place. Like I said, I really enjoy not having to deal with that stuff anymore. And, also for the record, I've seen just as many cases of pilot incometence as I've seen from schedulers. Can't even begin to count the amount of times I've heard "You only got 7 hours of rest, and reported, knowing you were illegal?" Sometimes circuses have audience participation, my friends.
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu View Post
Well, if that's the case... I'm just going off what I was told as it was happening. And, for the record, I'm not defending the company... I'm defending my (ex) coworkers and friends, who haven't been as fortunate as I to move on to a better place. Like I said, I really enjoy not having to deal with that stuff anymore. And, also for the record, I've seen just as many cases of pilot incometence as I've seen from schedulers. Can't even begin to count the amount of times I've heard "You only got 7 hours of rest, and reported, knowing you were illegal?" Sometimes circuses have audience participation, my friends.
How sure are you that it's pilot incompetence and not just a crew that knows how to beat the system? (i.e. putting themselves on a high speed?)

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Old 05-11-2009, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Montu View Post
Well, if that's the case... I'm just going off what I was told as it was happening. And, for the record, I'm not defending the company... I'm defending my (ex) coworkers and friends, who haven't been as fortunate as I to move on to a better place. Like I said, I really enjoy not having to deal with that stuff anymore. And, also for the record, I've seen just as many cases of pilot incometence as I've seen from schedulers. Can't even begin to count the amount of times I've heard "You only got 7 hours of rest, and reported, knowing you were illegal?" Sometimes circuses have audience participation, my friends.
I understand where you are coming from, but if I went with everything upper level has told me at this company I would be really confused right now. I would have probably also lost my certificates.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8rking View Post
How sure are you that's that pilot's incompetence or just a crew that knows how to beat the system??? (i.e. putting them selves on a high speed?)(Due to scheduling miscues?)
well, I'm pretty good at figuring out rest, since that's pretty much all I did for nearly my whole three years there. I'm not saying the high-speed change is never a factor (I stayed out of those issues)... the ones I'm talking about are the 10 hour layovers that run several hours late (and I'm sure you can figure out at least one of the city pairs involved), and the crew reporting at the original report, knowing they needed at least eight.

TurboDog: You have a very valid point. That's why I made it a point to put very low stock in what the higher ups told me (quite often they had a isse of finding a certain body part with both hands). The things I was hearing came straight from the people working the issue... schedulers making the changes, the hotel people making the reservations (at least that was the plan).
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:48 AM
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According to today in the sky we are done with Bos-bwi. The last day of operation will be august 17 (1 day after southwest starts that route).
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:07 AM
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anyone else having a problem getting on eMesstro?
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:33 AM
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anyone else having a problem getting on eMesstro?
Yep. Could another meltdown be on the horizon. I have a great idea! Let's bring the FA's on board with emaestro at the same time we change a boat load of crew domiciles and start displacing and Junior Manning 50% of the pilot group due to lack of staffing on a daily basis.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:37 AM
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I just saw this on the news that the pilot of the Colgan crash had 22 hours of rest however the news said that he was sleeping in the crew room and had logged on the computer at 3am. Sleeping in the crew room is against their Company policy. Too bad Fox news will never see our crew room at night!
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pantera View Post
I just saw this on the news that the pilot of the Colgan crash had 22 hours of rest however the news said that he was sleeping in the crew room and had logged on the computer at 3am. Sleeping in the crew room is against their Company policy. Too bad Fox news will never see our crew room at night!
isnt technology great. They can track every move you make. The FO also took a red eye in before her report. Lack of proper rest is going to be a big issue in this. Hopefully it doesnt cause issue for commuters.
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