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Old 07-29-2009 | 08:25 AM
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Profit sharing is out today. 6.37% If it wern't for taxes I would have gotten half a paycheck! Oh I better go here comes Ng4!
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Old 07-29-2009 | 09:11 AM
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If the proposed situation goes through where regionals would require 1500 hours and an ATP imagine what that would do to Comair. I have heard there are a bunch of things on the table that could go through. No CD's, Max 12 hour duty day, Max duty in 7 and 30 day periods, Min 10 hours rest and more. Could you imagine what would happen to the productivity at Comair. With all of the 4+ hour sits and consistent 13 hour duty days they would have to call back a lot of furloughed guys. They would be forced to build productive trips. Possibly even give them an ATP ride. Two feds so far have said possible ruling within 30 days an airlines would have to comply within 120 days. Would cost a ton of money, but I think it's about time and I hope it all passes for the sake of returning the profession to the amount of respect it deserves.

All regionals would be almost created equal. There wouldn't be a race to the bottom anymore and in fact the companies would have to create places that are desirable to work and that is the only way they will attract new pilots when the time comes.
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Old 07-29-2009 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
If the proposed situation goes through where regionals would require 1500 hours and an ATP imagine what that would do to Comair. I have heard there are a bunch of things on the table that could go through. No CD's, Max 12 hour duty day, Max duty in 7 and 30 day periods, Min 10 hours rest and more. Could you imagine what would happen to the productivity at Comair. With all of the 4+ hour sits and consistent 13 hour duty days they would have to call back a lot of furloughed guys. They would be forced to build productive trips. Possibly even give them an ATP ride. Two feds so far have said possible ruling within 30 days an airlines would have to comply within 120 days. Would cost a ton of money, but I think it's about time and I hope it all passes for the sake of returning the profession to the amount of respect it deserves.

All regionals would be almost created equal. There wouldn't be a race to the bottom anymore and in fact the companies would have to create places that are desirable to work and that is the only way they will attract new pilots when the time comes.
Yep. Even though I am a bit short of the new proposed mins, I think it will help in stopping the 'race to the bottom'.

I wonder if we will be grandfathered in. I guess if the law says they cannot "hire" folks with less than ATP mins, that would not apply to folks that already have a SN number.
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Old 07-29-2009 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
Yep. Even though I am a bit short of the new proposed mins, I think it will help in stopping the 'race to the bottom'.

I wonder if we will be grandfathered in. I guess if the law says they cannot "hire" folks with less than ATP mins, that would not apply to folks that already have a SN number.
I imagine the company would just run you through the SIM, or call your next ride an ATP ride. There were guys at comair a few years ago that were getting guys to sign them off on the ATP during their checkride.

Like I just read on the other thread, if you don't have a college degree now is the time to get one. That will be the next thing coming.
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Old 07-29-2009 | 11:42 AM
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Hey guys,

What are the pass privileges on DAL while on furlough?
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Old 07-29-2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by drummflyer
Hey guys,

What are the pass privileges on DAL while on furlough?
Supposedly 5 years of S3C on Delta/Comair... although I have ridden on ASA, Skywest and Mesaba since furlough.... so I have no idea... lol.
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Old 07-29-2009 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
If the proposed situation goes through where regionals would require 1500 hours and an ATP imagine what that would do to Comair. I have heard there are a bunch of things on the table that could go through. No CD's, Max 12 hour duty day, Max duty in 7 and 30 day periods, Min 10 hours rest and more. Could you imagine what would happen to the productivity at Comair. With all of the 4+ hour sits and consistent 13 hour duty days they would have to call back a lot of furloughed guys. They would be forced to build productive trips. Possibly even give them an ATP ride. Two feds so far have said possible ruling within 30 days an airlines would have to comply within 120 days. Would cost a ton of money, but I think it's about time and I hope it all passes for the sake of returning the profession to the amount of respect it deserves.

All regionals would be almost created equal. There wouldn't be a race to the bottom anymore and in fact the companies would have to create places that are desirable to work and that is the only way they will attract new pilots when the time comes.


I hope this statement happens sooner rather than later. the atp mins is a good start to fixing the problem at 121 carriers even though I'm just a little short. On the other hand, I had a interview at a 135 place and I'm thinking of how to get fired if hired.
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Old 07-29-2009 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by drummflyer
Hey guys,

What are the pass privileges on DAL while on furlough?
Like riding on a buddy pass!
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Old 07-29-2009 | 01:04 PM
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Ok. Just wondered because our pilot contract says we get on-line and interline passes for 30 days after furlough date. They referring to something else?
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Old 07-29-2009 | 01:56 PM
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for 30 days after your furlough date you will receive the same pass priveleges as you have now, after that, you will be listed as "retiree/other" and if you have 4-5 years, the new rampie they hired last week will bump you. but you bump their buddy on the buddy pass.
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