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Old 09-11-2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cyrcadian
Where?

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Probably with the DE up in Presque Isle, Maine..
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Old 09-11-2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fjetter
+1 for sheppard air

2 days of cramming for 8hrs = 99% on atp written
Is Sheppard an online test prep, then you take the written at a CATS testing facility?
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Old 09-11-2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Is Sheppard an online test prep, then you take the written at a CATS testing facility?
No. You call up the number on the web site and they will give you a Password so you can download the software. No internet connection required when you use the software.

As far as getting the actual ATP, I did it locally where I live in a Seneca and an FTD. Even though I got my ATP paid for, I got away with it at a pretty reasonable cost. The FTD I used was a Precision Flight Controls set up as a Turbo Seminole @ $45/hr. A lot of the actual ATP ride can be done in the Sim, except the Single Engine Approach to Land and one or two other things. Look at the ATP PTS. The hardest part for me was getting back into flying dial gauges, using a Garmin 430, flying DME Arcs without an FMS, etc. I spend about 5 hours in the FTD doing approaches and maneuvers and about 2 hours in the plane before I took my checkride.
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Old 09-11-2009 | 02:54 PM
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I thought someone on here said something about being able to use your expired written if you were furloughed...

I have been known to be wrong though
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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Alknew182
I thought someone on here said something about being able to use your expired written if you were furloughed...

I have been known to be wrong though
That was me. What do you want to know?
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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJDriver
That was me. What do you want to know?
I'd like to know exactly how you did it too!

Mine expired in May
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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Probably with the DE up in Presque Isle, Maine..
Is this the Instructor/DE guy?
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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
I'd like to know exactly how you did it too!

Mine expired in May

I think if you look a few posts back, Driver posted the information on how to do it.
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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
I'd like to know exactly how you did it too!

Mine expired in May

Ok. Let’s look at the FAR 61.39(b) first and see what it says:

(b) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a)(1) and (2) of this section, an applicant for an airline transport pilot certificate or an additional rating to an airline transport certificate may take the practical test for that certificate or rating with an expired knowledge test report, provided that the applicant:

(1) Is employed as a flight crewmember by a certificate holder under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter at the time of the practical test and has satisfactorily accomplished that operator's approved—

(i) Pilot in command aircraft qualification training program that is appropriate to the certificate and rating sought; and

(ii) Qualification training requirements appropriate to the certificate and rating sought;
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There seems to be a lot of confusion and different interpretations of the regulations regarding the ATP written. First, you ATP written expires after 24 calendar months. Period. However, the regulations state: “Is employed as a flight crewmember by a certificate holder under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter at the time of the practical test.” The part that confused me and thought would make me ineligible is the “and has satisfactorily accomplished that operator's approved”, in this case when I would upgrade to Captain at Comair.

My ATP Written expired in March and I wanted to get my ATP in April, Pt. 61 at a local FBO. I did some research and talked to the DPE and called my local FSDO to confirm and see if I can use my expired written exam or if I would have to re-take it. After about a week of waiting and the FSDO confirming with OKC, I got the green light from the FSDO and my DPE and was told I was good to go, as long as I have a seniority number on file with my airline, I am still considered to be employed by a Pt. 121 carrier.

The issue you will run into is with IACRA. The system will reject your expired written exam. Luckily my DPE knew what he was doing and had dealt with this before. Instead of using IACRA, we completed a paper 8710, attached a copy of my furlough letter and my expired ATP written. It will definitely help if you have a DPE that knows what he is doing. At this time I am running around with my 2nd temporary certificate, as my local FSDO doesn’t have it all together. First time around they forgot to send it in, then they forgot to sign it, so it has been a big cluster, but there haven’t been any issues with the expired written. I thoroughly researched this before I started my ATP and wanted confirmation from the FAA in OKC. So, it can be done if you have it all together, do some research and know what you are doing. I’ve heard some stories of regional FOs going to ALLATPs and trying to do this and got denied. I don’t know why? I really didn’t want to re-take that stupid test, as I though it was actually the hardest and most time consuming part of the whole process of getting the ATP.
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Old 09-11-2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonne
I think Comair's MEC needs some new blood.... and a little smarts... Which is where I come in. I've been at Comair for 5 years and in JFK for 2 1/2 - and I think we need some changes. So, to do this I need to be nominated for Council #45 First Officer Rep. Anyone want to help me?
What are you going to do to change things around?
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