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Old 08-02-2009 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
Red Alert for Comair Commuters.
This morning I walked up to the gate to commute for my four day trip and rather than seeing 20 empty seats (which I saw on travelnet last night), I saw all zeros. The Delta MD80 was completely full.

I looked around to see if there were other Delta or Comair pilots who would have thier hands on the jumpseat. I didn't see any other pilots except for freedom (Mesa).

I approached the Gate counter and asked "Have any other Delta or Comair pilots checked in for the jumpseat?"

The response was no.... and I handed over my ID and passport. I assumed that Mesa no longer requests the jumpseat since they fall behind DAL, Comair, Mesaba and Compass according to the memo that came out 6 or 8 weeks ago.

I walk down the jetway, and they clear exactly two non rev's behind me. A comair guy (works in the GO) and his son. He told me that the three Freedom pilots were *****ing out the gate agent because one of them was there first and they believed it is fist come first serve.

I walked back up the jetway to politely explain that this isn't the case and rather than hearing me out. One of the three Mesa guys yelled that it was first come first serve as of June 1st.

The gate agent said that she would look it up, but she knew what the jumpseat priorty was and that I was right.

Anyone who uses DAL as a commuting option needs to be aware that FALSE information is spreading like wildfire at Mesa/Freedom. I am unaware as to weather they are uninformed, wrongly informed by thier company, or outright lying.

I have called our CP office and I am attempting to get a copy of that Memo again .... to photocopy and distribute to MCO gate agents.

I have apologized to MESA, CHQ, etc Jumpseaters on my airplane to make room for Delta pilots. It seems like most people know the game and play it. What happend this morning was an abberation.... but one that I do not want to see multiply. You know, if you tell a lie often enough... people start believing its true. I dont want DAL gate agents to start thinking that first come first serve is how we assign the JS now.
You are very right. According to the Delta FOM page 4-3.12 wholly owned DC carriers are H-1 priority and non wholly owned DC carriers are H-2 priority for the jumpseat. If you run into this issue again the captain will be able to confirm your priority with the FOM. Good Luck
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Old 08-02-2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
Red Alert for Comair Commuters.
This morning I walked up to the gate to commute for my four day trip and rather than seeing 20 empty seats (which I saw on travelnet last night), I saw all zeros. The Delta MD80 was completely full.

I looked around to see if there were other Delta or Comair pilots who would have thier hands on the jumpseat. I didn't see any other pilots except for freedom (Mesa).

I approached the Gate counter and asked "Have any other Delta or Comair pilots checked in for the jumpseat?"

The response was no.... and I handed over my ID and passport. I assumed that Mesa no longer requests the jumpseat since they fall behind DAL, Comair, Mesaba and Compass according to the memo that came out 6 or 8 weeks ago.

I walk down the jetway, and they clear exactly two non rev's behind me. A comair guy (works in the GO) and his son. He told me that the three Freedom pilots were *****ing out the gate agent because one of them was there first and they believed it is fist come first serve.

I walked back up the jetway to politely explain that this isn't the case and rather than hearing me out. One of the three Mesa guys yelled that it was first come first serve as of June 1st.

The gate agent said that she would look it up, but she knew what the jumpseat priorty was and that I was right.

Anyone who uses DAL as a commuting option needs to be aware that FALSE information is spreading like wildfire at Mesa/Freedom. I am unaware as to weather they are uninformed, wrongly informed by thier company, or outright lying.

I have called our CP office and I am attempting to get a copy of that Memo again .... to photocopy and distribute to MCO gate agents.

I have apologized to MESA, CHQ, etc Jumpseaters on my airplane to make room for Delta pilots. It seems like most people know the game and play it. What happend this morning was an abberation.... but one that I do not want to see multiply. You know, if you tell a lie often enough... people start believing its true. I dont want DAL gate agents to start thinking that first come first serve is how we assign the JS now.

Since when do Mesa/Freedom people started to believe they have "rights" in other companies when they don't even have nor fight for any at their own company?. Some of these people are just plain dellusional.
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Old 08-02-2009 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaGator
Red Alert for Comair Commuters.
This morning I walked up to the gate to commute for my four day trip and rather than seeing 20 empty seats (which I saw on travelnet last night), I saw all zeros. The Delta MD80 was completely full.

I looked around to see if there were other Delta or Comair pilots who would have thier hands on the jumpseat. I didn't see any other pilots except for freedom (Mesa).

I approached the Gate counter and asked "Have any other Delta or Comair pilots checked in for the jumpseat?"

The response was no.... and I handed over my ID and passport. I assumed that Mesa no longer requests the jumpseat since they fall behind DAL, Comair, Mesaba and Compass according to the memo that came out 6 or 8 weeks ago.

I walk down the jetway, and they clear exactly two non rev's behind me. A comair guy (works in the GO) and his son. He told me that the three Freedom pilots were *****ing out the gate agent because one of them was there first and they believed it is fist come first serve.

I walked back up the jetway to politely explain that this isn't the case and rather than hearing me out. One of the three Mesa guys yelled that it was first come first serve as of June 1st.

The gate agent said that she would look it up, but she knew what the jumpseat priorty was and that I was right.

Anyone who uses DAL as a commuting option needs to be aware that FALSE information is spreading like wildfire at Mesa/Freedom. I am unaware as to weather they are uninformed, wrongly informed by thier company, or outright lying.

I have called our CP office and I am attempting to get a copy of that Memo again .... to photocopy and distribute to MCO gate agents.

I have apologized to MESA, CHQ, etc Jumpseaters on my airplane to make room for Delta pilots. It seems like most people know the game and play it. What happend this morning was an abberation.... but one that I do not want to see multiply. You know, if you tell a lie often enough... people start believing its true. I dont want DAL gate agents to start thinking that first come first serve is how we assign the JS now.
I think the best part of this story is that you actually thought there would be 20 seats. It's Delta, there was a rain shower the other day, and everything is messed up. I was going to nonrev to BOS from south FL on Saturday. Friday night there were some storms and everything went to pot at Delta. The 6AM canceled out of here Saturday morning and that made the rest of the day impossible, with all flight -15 to -25. If I did make it out, I'd be stuck in ATL, and God knows I hate that place. Oh well, stayed home and drank some cool adult beverages.
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Old 08-02-2009 | 07:31 PM
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Hey, getting ever so close to that 15K mark! Keep it rolling!

To anyone in dispatch that happens to read this: Good job sending an aircraft JFK-BOS-RDU with a broken pack on Saturday! I'm sure all those passengers will rush right out and travel on Delta again soon! NOT! With a full flight on both of those legs, temp in the cabin hovered around 90-93 the whole time. Good job Comair! 2.5 hr block (BOS-RDU)and in the 90's, I'm sure there was some swamp butt going on in that plane
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Old 08-02-2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Hey, getting ever so close to that 15K mark! Keep it rolling!

To anyone in dispatch that happens to read this: Good job sending an aircraft JFK-BOS-RDU with a broken pack on Saturday! I'm sure all those passengers will rush right out and travel on Delta again soon! NOT! With a full flight on both of those legs, temp in the cabin hovered around 90-93 the whole time. Good job Comair! 2.5 hr block (BOS-RDU)and in the 90's, I'm sure there was some swamp butt going on in that plane
Actually, flight control routes the aircraft to particular flights, not dispatch. But no, I'm not defending the decision to do something like that...
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Old 08-02-2009 | 09:19 PM
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Floridagator,

I am not sure how that played out for you, but I sure hope you took that jump seat. If not, in addition to the CP, I would take that to ALPA and pro standards. Might as well get some use out of that money you pay them.
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Old 08-03-2009 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
Oh well, stayed home and drank some cool adult beverages.
Good call. Minus a short drinking expedition in Ireland after furlough, all my flight benefits have gotten me is a seat in my arm-chair.... which, is due to be repossessed any day now...
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Old 08-03-2009 | 05:14 AM
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Default Someone explain this to me please

I gave a guy a buddy pass to travel from TPA to ELP via ATL. Now I told him that buddy passes suck and not to blame me. Well of course what was 30 empty seats yesterday afternoon is over sold until 2:00 today. So with all his time to kill my buddy logs on to priceline.com and is able to buy a ticket for tomorrow for $30 less than a buddy pass.

Why is Delta charging more for standby than an actual ticket?
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Old 08-03-2009 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chow
I gave a guy a buddy pass to travel from TPA to ELP via ATL. Now I told him that buddy passes suck and not to blame me. Well of course what was 30 empty seats yesterday afternoon is over sold until 2:00 today. So with all his time to kill my buddy logs on to priceline.com and is able to buy a ticket for tomorrow for $30 less than a buddy pass.

Why is Delta charging more for standby than an actual ticket?
Chow:

Enemy passes are worthless for domestic flying. I would see some value if used for an international flight and your buddy is able to get a seat upfront. I hope your buddy does not screw up with Whisky to get back at youJ
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Old 08-03-2009 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
Chow:

Enemy passes are worthless for domestic flying. I would see some value if used for an international flight and your buddy is able to get a seat upfront. I hope your buddy does not screw up with Whisky to get back at youJ
Well it not like they can take her all apart of anything.

Besides, aren't you supposed to be getting ready for a boat ride and some water skiing?
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