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Old 09-02-2010 | 06:08 PM
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More importantly, is there a good reason to use PPAS anymore?
Of course! Extra money, PPAS: Pilot Pay Augmentation System.
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Old 09-02-2010 | 06:12 PM
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Of course! Extra money, PPAS: Pilot Pay Augmentation System.
Not when you're on reserve!
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Old 09-02-2010 | 09:06 PM
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Anyone know if there is an iron and ironing board in the new crew room yet?
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Old 09-03-2010 | 03:37 AM
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Anyone know if there is an iron and ironing board in the new crew room yet?
I have seen an iron, but haven't seen a board yet.
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Old 09-03-2010 | 03:38 AM
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Oh god, are we going to have as many crew room campers in DTW as in JFK? DTW is not as expensive as JFK. Apartments, crashpads, hotels are more affordable than New York.
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Old 09-03-2010 | 03:41 AM
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Does anyone else find it ironic that this company never plans two days in advance, yet we get this memo about our future right before negotiations start? I'm not saying that all of this won't happen, but I also wouldn't put it past this company to lie to our face and make everyone afraid to lose their job just so they can get more pay cuts for out next round of negotiations. Just some food for thought.
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Old 09-03-2010 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
Does anyone else find it ironic that this company never plans two days in advance, yet we get this memo about our future right before negotiations start? I'm not saying that all of this won't happen, but I also wouldn't put it past this company to lie to our face and make everyone afraid to lose their job just so they can get more pay cuts for out next round of negotiations. Just some food for thought.
That is the word around the water cooler, crew rooms, cockpits, etc. However, I still do believe the 50 seaters will go.
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Old 09-03-2010 | 04:47 AM
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The same guys believing it's just a scare tactic are the same ones who really believed 170s would show up with concessions.
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Old 09-03-2010 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
Does anyone else find it ironic that this company never plans two days in advance, yet we get this memo about our future right before negotiations start? I'm not saying that all of this won't happen, but I also wouldn't put it past this company to lie to our face and make everyone afraid to lose their job just so they can get more pay cuts for out next round of negotiations. Just some food for thought.
One might even wonder why management is in such a hurry to negotiate to begin with, since they usually like to drag these things out five years of more.

Five years from now, the temporary labor surplus created by age 65 will have started to correct itself.

Five years from now, there won't likely be many new pilots completing flight training - just look at student starts over the last couple of years.

Five years form now the 1500 hour minimum experience level for airline pilots, in whatever it's final form is, will have an impact on the available labor pool.

Wonder why Comair/Delta isn't trying to delay negotiations as they historically do?
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Old 09-03-2010 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
That is the word around the water cooler, crew rooms, cockpits, etc. However, I still do believe the 50 seaters will go.

I believe the 50 seaters will go too and there could be some truth about the company/delta using scare tactics, i wasn't around for the "first" one during last negotiations. What if, and this is a big what if, the 50 do go and the planes Horizon flew get dangled in front of our noses? mgnt will bring those to the table and offer those along with pay cuts so everyone keep their job. and yes I know, that the 17, CR7 Horizon has is not the same number as losing 49 CRJ200 but it creates hope and promise to a pilot group that's about ready to be massacred.
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