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09-02-2010 | 07:06 AM
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Captain Tony "Are you SERIOUS? SERIOUSLY?!!!
Fell on your sword? REALLY? Were you even there? The offer that ended the strike was only slightly better than the last offer before the strike. Then you guys turned around and gave it all back during the ASA negotiations because Butthead Buttrell dangled some E175s in your faces, which put huge downward pressure on OUR negotiations! So don't lecture me about improving the profession!"
Hold a minute CPT T - The company that started the downward spiral was Chautauqa, Comair only froze wages, not accepted a concessionary contract.... Then did ASA even hold the line nope - they accepted a concessionary contract.... And as you probably full well know there are many more examples of how we all have found ourselves in this mess.
This is not an attack on you - it is just an example of the failure of OUR unions....
We all MUST unite, or we WILL all FAIL ......
Simple as that ...
Fell on your sword? REALLY? Were you even there? The offer that ended the strike was only slightly better than the last offer before the strike. Then you guys turned around and gave it all back during the ASA negotiations because Butthead Buttrell dangled some E175s in your faces, which put huge downward pressure on OUR negotiations! So don't lecture me about improving the profession!"
Hold a minute CPT T - The company that started the downward spiral was Chautauqa, Comair only froze wages, not accepted a concessionary contract.... Then did ASA even hold the line nope - they accepted a concessionary contract.... And as you probably full well know there are many more examples of how we all have found ourselves in this mess.
This is not an attack on you - it is just an example of the failure of OUR unions....
We all MUST unite, or we WILL all FAIL ......
Simple as that ...
09-02-2010 | 07:11 AM
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Hold a minute CPT T - The company that started the downward spiral was Chautauqa, Comair only froze wages, not accepted a concessionary contract.... Then did ASA even hold the line nope - they accepted a concessionary contract.... And as you probably full well know there are many more examples of how we all have found ourselves in this mess.
This is not an attack on you - it is just an example of the failure of OUR unions....
We all MUST unite, or we WILL all FAIL ......
Simple as that ...
This is not an attack on you - it is just an example of the failure of OUR unions....
We all MUST unite, or we WILL all FAIL ......
Simple as that ...
And a pay freeze IS concessionary. You are forgoing raises. That's giving money back to the company.
09-02-2010 | 07:15 AM
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From: blueJet
Delta / FredEx did dangle E175s in front of us in 2005, but they also showed us the big stick that was Republic/Chautauqua and said "play nice or you're done"
I'm sorry that Delta's whipsaw of Comair put more downward pressure on ASA's negotiations. That's how management plays.
For what it's worth, I'm hearing "full pay to the last day" in the crew room. Maybe we will vote "NO" on any further concessions and take our demise like true professionals. You can keep hoping...
09-02-2010 | 07:17 AM
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Nope, I got here two years after that.
Delta / FredEx did dangle E175s in front of us in 2005, but they also showed us the big stick that was Republic/Chautauqua and said "play nice or you're done"
I'm sorry that Delta's whipsaw of Comair put more downward pressure on ASA's negotiations. That's how management plays.
For what it's worth, I'm hearing "full pay to the last day" in the crew room. Maybe we will vote "NO" on any further concessions and take our demise like true professionals. You can keep hoping...
Delta / FredEx did dangle E175s in front of us in 2005, but they also showed us the big stick that was Republic/Chautauqua and said "play nice or you're done"
I'm sorry that Delta's whipsaw of Comair put more downward pressure on ASA's negotiations. That's how management plays.
For what it's worth, I'm hearing "full pay to the last day" in the crew room. Maybe we will vote "NO" on any further concessions and take our demise like true professionals. You can keep hoping...
But as you NOW admit, y'all don't have a great track record in this...
09-02-2010 | 07:17 AM
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09-02-2010 | 07:18 AM
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09-02-2010 | 07:37 AM
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From: blueJet
Are you saying his post was a legitimate question? Because it sounds like flamebait to me.
09-02-2010 | 07:44 AM
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From: Phoenix
just an honest question dude. Like i have stated for the past week, i have expressed my best luck to you guys! And the rj mess, is exactly what it is. Seeing there are more rjs than mainline planes, i consider that a mess.
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