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Old 10-06-2016, 07:37 AM   #22561  
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I kind of miss soaper!


Remember the "no soap" stickers? A guy I flew with got disciplined for having one on his bag.


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Old 10-06-2016, 10:20 AM   #22562  
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Remember the "no soap" stickers? A guy I flew with got disciplined for having one on his bag.


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GOT PAYCUT? Stickers, max said something one time, but it turned out he was only talking about my OSU sticker!!
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:24 PM   #22563  
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Heard Comair has a really good flow to PSA!
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Old 10-06-2016, 06:28 PM   #22564  
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There are many things Delta did to Comair after acquiring full ownership.

There are three events which lead me to believe Delta engineered the failure of Comair. While each event couldn't cause the failure of Comair by itself, these actions by Delta certainly made it more difficult to operate efficiently.

First, Delta took 15 CRJ-700s from Comair and gave them to ASA. This was during contract negotiations and Comair never saw those planes again.

Shortly before bankruptcy, former president Fred Butrell, aka Portfolio Phred, convinced the pilot group to accept a pay freeze and give up the B-fund contributions. One of the carrots dangled in front of the pilot group was the EMB-170. This agreement/LOA passed by six votes. I voted against it as I didn't see how a company soon headed to to bankruptcy could finance the purchase of these new airplanes. Once the LOA passed, Butrell went to Delta in an effort to get a EMB-170 program started. Delta told him those airplanes were going to Republic (hello, Shuttle America!) and Butrell resigned.

After bankruptcy, Freedom lost the -900s they operated for Delta and they were to go to Comair. I held one of the vacancy bids for that "promise." The transfer was cancelled and those airplanes went to Mesaba, now part of Endeavor.

If all those airplanes had remained at Comair, or been delivered as promised/implied, Comair would have been a more profitable operation and probably still flying today...IMO.
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I think they miss Cpt. Kimberly!😉

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Imagine if ALPA would have fairly instituted the PID for the Comair folks. They would be Delta widebody international Captains now instead of on the street.
LOL trollers gonna troll tho.
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I've read threads for years and shook my head and refused to weigh in.. Well.. Who caused the shutdown.. DL mad because of a strike, ALPA big league over scrappy little league via the "letter"... JC JC, I can hear the cries now. While I'm not sure, and suspect there is only a handful who can truly say X was the reason (or more likely the final reason). I saw a rank and file group who spouted MY MEC SPEAKS FOR ME, walked the holding pattern while thumping their chest. For years they tried to hold CMR and later DAL as hostage. CMR pilot group fought management, dal management, alpa (think RJ defense coalition - ***, really).. While I worked there for a VERY long time, I don't blame DAL in the end for whatever the final straw or reason was. I now see many a post that now, a few years later, spouts that they didn't authorize the letter or JC didn't speak for me.. Well boys, and a few gals, you made your beds. It is really unfortunate that during a period of great opportunity for pilots to elevate themselves and their pay.. you have pretty much nuked yourselves. Flow through to PSA, and GOdaddyJet, now that is karma. Speaking of Soaper... remember the blow-up rat.. and Freddie "bi-polar" Buttrel... Aaaah, the good old days.

Ok, I feel better now. Only about 60 days till ham certificates come out.... that is if Karla hasn't eaten them all...
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I've read threads for years and shook my head and refused to weigh in.. Well.. Who caused the shutdown.. DL mad because of a strike, ALPA big league over scrappy little league via the "letter"... JC JC, I can hear the cries now. While I'm not sure, and suspect there is only a handful who can truly say X was the reason (or more likely the final reason). I saw a rank and file group who spouted MY MEC SPEAKS FOR ME, walked the holding pattern while thumping their chest. For years they tried to hold CMR and later DAL as hostage. CMR pilot group fought management, dal management, alpa (think RJ defense coalition - ***, really).. While I worked there for a VERY long time, I don't blame DAL in the end for whatever the final straw or reason was. I now see many a post that now, a few years later, spouts that they didn't authorize the letter or JC didn't speak for me.. Well boys, and a few gals, you made your beds. It is really unfortunate that during a period of great opportunity for pilots to elevate themselves and their pay.. you have pretty much nuked yourselves. Flow through to PSA, and GOdaddyJet, now that is karma. Speaking of Soaper... remember the blow-up rat.. and Freddie "bi-polar" Buttrel... Aaaah, the good old days.

Ok, I feel better now. Only about 60 days till ham certificates come out.... that is if Karla hasn't eaten them all...
Helluva second post. Congrats!

However, I respectfully disagree.
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Bring back ShoeShine boy and his/her wooden flight case!
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Disagree - noted. As said, second post but 25+yrs industry with a great deal at OH. Just perspective from myself and many other non-pilots that feel the pilots own the lions share of why there are no longer OH pilots.
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