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Old 09-24-2008 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RU4692
No, but he did say that Q400's are the new era of regional aviation. I would be more inclined to think that Comair would rather go the CR7/CR9 than go to the Q400 route.

Just my opinion.
Why? Why are we so resistant to turboprops?? These are very advanced aircraft that can beat a crj to FL250 and can give the exact same time per leg for anything under a few hundred miles. You get 20 more seats than a 50 for half of the fuel burn. I know alot of people think these aircraft are beneath them. I hope comair management and the comair MEC don't think this way.
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Old 09-24-2008 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Why? Why are we so resistant to turboprops?? These are very advanced aircraft that can beat a crj to FL250 and can give the exact same time per leg for anything under a few hundred miles. You get 20 more seats than a 50 for half of the fuel burn. I know alot of people think these aircraft are beneath them. I hope comair management and the comair MEC don't think this way.

I would gladly switch from the 50 seater to the Q400. I'd like to think that since the Q400 is a 70seater it would pay the same as the CRJ700/900.
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Old 09-24-2008 | 08:53 AM
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I think our jobs will be much safer if we can fly Q-400's
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Old 09-24-2008 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dbo861
I would gladly switch from the 50 seater to the Q400. I'd like to think that since the Q400 is a 70seater it would pay the same as the CRJ700/900.
well I can assure you any union who pushes for 70 seat RJ wages on this airplane will never see it.

Im not saying its right im just saying thats the way its gonna be.
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Old 09-24-2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Why? Why are we so resistant to turboprops?? These are very advanced aircraft that can beat a crj to FL250 and can give the exact same time per leg for anything under a few hundred miles. You get 20 more seats than a 50 for half of the fuel burn. I know alot of people think these aircraft are beneath them. I hope comair management and the comair MEC don't think this way.
I'd fly a Q400 in a heartbeat, but I think Delta's DCI system is resistant to turboprops. The only turboprop I know of flown under the Delta flag is the ATR (ASA), and the EMB-120 (SKW), which are both in the process of being phased out. From what I know Delta's Medallion customers are very proud of the fact they only fly jets.

Remember the B-1900's being flown under DCI and how long that lasted? Granted a B-1900 and a Q400 are apples and oranges, I just think the general consenus of the public is that they dont trust propeller aircraft.
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Old 09-24-2008 | 09:16 AM
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Remember the B-1900's being flown under DCI and how long that lasted? Granted a B-1900 and a Q400 are apples and oranges, I just think the general consenus of the public is that they dont trust propeller aircraft.
The reason the 1900's disappeared was because they were being operated by one of the most unreliable mismanaged companies out there, Big Sky. That deal was a disaster for Delta. I was there to watch it all go down, it wasnt pretty. Days with <50% completion factor and 0% on time performance were not what Delta had in mind when they signed up with us. Great group of pilots though, we did what we could with what we were given. Cowboy Up!
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Old 09-24-2008 | 09:16 AM
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The main problem for the Q400 is ATC in the Northeast corridor sees it as a turboprop and keeps it on the low routes. My buddy is a Q400 captain at Colgan and that's the problem there having right now. With them operating below 18,000, you're not getting that fuel savings profile. Of course most of our operations now days is up in the northeast. Basically all it would take is to get with local atcs and Tracons to explain that the Q400 is not the tp of yesterday, but operates more like an RJ andrequires higher routing to get the required performance.
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Old 09-24-2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by H46Bubba
The main problem for the Q400 is ATC in the Northeast corridor sees it as a turboprop and keeps it on the low routes. My buddy is a Q400 captain at Colgan and that's the problem there having right now. With them operating below 18,000, you're not getting that fuel savings profile. Of course most of our operations now days is up in the northeast. Basically all it would take is to get with local atcs and Tracons to explain that the Q400 is not the tp of yesterday, but operates more like an RJ andrequires higher routing to get the required performance.
Problem is though in the FL's it acts like a turboprop and is being passed at over 100 knots by jets, thus getting in the way of ATC. Keep em low, keep em outta the way!
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Old 09-24-2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RU4692
I'd fly a Q400 in a heartbeat, but I think Delta's DCI system is resistant to turboprops. The only turboprop I know of flown under the Delta flag is the ATR (ASA), and the EMB-120 (SKW), which are both in the process of being phased out. From what I know Delta's Medallion customers are very proud of the fact they only fly jets.

Remember the B-1900's being flown under DCI and how long that lasted? Granted a B-1900 and a Q400 are apples and oranges, I just think the general consenus of the public is that they dont trust propeller aircraft.
I think they only fly the EMB-120 on the United side. So that just leaves the ATR, however Delta is looking to save money. Delta is slowely not as concerned about its medallion customers and more about saving money.(ie. getting Freedumb). So the Q400 may be a good option.
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Old 09-24-2008 | 09:21 AM
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I think passengers will get over hating props once they ride on the new Q-400. I haven't myself but i have heard they are a lot quieter than say a dash 8 or atr. and you would think delta would get over not wanting props in order to save big $$$ on fuel burn. I'm in the pool still and I'd fly the shi! out of the Q-400. Granted that wouldnt be for a while but hopefully if they got some in the near future it might save some jobs at least, which would also help me out in the long run :-P
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