theaviator

Yea, I could never pay my student loans on 20K a year. Maybe this will be a good thing for me. Get out, get paid more, live happier.

Boomer

They are not leaving Comair. If the wording says "upon leaving Comair..." then why should they have to pay early? To be fair, Comair should eat the cost, or defer payment until the pilot is recalled.

But to do what is fair and what Comair does are hardly similar.

Is each furloughed pilot being paid his accrued vacation time for 2008 and 2009?

RiddleEagle18

They are "temporarily" operating them until their deliveries come online in 2009 according to Pinnacles CEO. What does that mean? They might be up for grabs again next year. Maybe delta does move them to comair but next time for a 1 to 1 swap with the 50's.

Or Pinnacle management uses them as a bargaining tool to get those guys to sign a bad contract.

Don't forget their are 7 "freedom" 900 deliveries scheduled for next year as well with no home yet. Call me crazy but I just dont believe comair is done yet. If we do get any more 900's from anywhere I fully expect it to be a 1 to 1 swap for the 50's though.

The Chow

Okay....you're crazy!

teamdothis

Dont care if its temporary, i would like to have kept my job for at least a few more months

Boomer

So how long until ALPA grieves the side letter violation with 7 planes being awarded to Pinnacle? Comair gets 30% of unawarded (as of March 2007) jet aircraft, and Delta put it in writing.

As this is a new award, Comair should be getting 3 of them.

Shame on our MEC and shame on the Vage if they just roll over on this one.

cyrcadian

I don't see this as "new" flying.

The Chow

I guess we need to define the term new eh?

theaviator

Main Entry:1new Pronunciation: \ˈnü, chiefly British ˈnyü, in place names usually (ˌ)nu̇ or nə or (ˌ)ni\ Function:adjective Etymology:Middle English, from Old English nīwe; akin to Old High German niuwi new, Latin novus, Greek neosDate:before 12th century 1: having recently come into existence : recent , modern2 a

(1): having been seen, used, or known for a short time : novel <rice was a new crop for the area> (2): unfamiliar <visit new places> b: being other than the former or old <a steady flow of new money>3: having been in a relationship or condition but a short time <new to the job> <a new wife>4 a: beginning as the resumption or repetition of a previous act or thing <a new day> <the new edition> b: made or become fresh <awoke a new person> c: relating to or being a new moon5: different from one of the same category that has existed previously <new realism>6: of dissimilar origin and usually of superior quality <a new strain of hybrid corn>

heading180

K, well, two (2) things, or maybe three.

1. I am scheduled to be furloughed Nov 5. I called an union rep this evening and he did not say we needed to email this information to the union to receive our money. He said they were working with the company to figure this out.

2. I would almost be willing to take their piddly check (if it is decided that the company was in the wrong by doing this) and stick it back up where the sun don't shine because it does not give me a warm fuzzy knowing the company is not sending me this money in good faith. They would only be doing so as a result of being forced. Like we were supposed to laugh this one off or something. Hahaha, well I have my money now so it's okay... Bu**sh*t.

3. Why would I have to email the union with an amount so I could receive a check from the company?? Does the company not know how much they owe me? Do they get their payroll information each month from ALPA. NO!!

I am terribly heart broken right now. As I stated to the ALPA rep, it's not the money, (not that I don't have bills or anything) but it's the principle. As a young boy gazing through the airport fence I expected to, as an airline pilot, be an upstanding respected individual within my establishment as well as in society. I am the furthest from that I have ever been in my life. I don't care about recalls, or half of a CR9 we might be getting in March, I demand respect. We are the frontline of the industry. We thank the passengers as the get off the airplane after we just got them safely to Buffalo in the driving snow. Yet we continue to tolerate BS from our companies.

Regarding the furloughs, that's part of the industry. I am not beat up over it. It's just one of those things we all expect in this industry. I am more upset regarding the lack of communication and the dis-respect we receive from our employer.

If they do decide to send us our checks, it is not until some pilots who choose to rub their peckers with management, thanking them for sending us our checks, forgiving them of their cold heartedness and bla bla bla STOP, we will NEVER get that respect and will continue to be reamed, DRY. OUCH