Questions about sitting on Reserve
12-08-2005, 09:04 PM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 104
As far as I know, no regional "Requires" you to sit reserve. In a seniority list based company, schedules are built and bid on in order of seniority. And since most people don't want to be on reserve, that leaves the bottom feeders/n00bs with reserve. The company could care less who is on reserve. Sometimes, in the summer months, senior folks bid reserve because they'd rather be out on their boat or fishing or whatever, knowing they will hardly get called.
As for going to a regional and not sitting reserve for 6 months to a year. Good luck with that. Look at the industry..... and who's bankrupt or about to be bankrupt. Things are slow. Attrition and movement is not like the mid to late 90s. Expect to be on reserve for at least 3-4 months at any regional you're hired at. Maybe Colgan has quick movement. I can't think of really any stable, healthy reigonals that are showing quick movement up the list.
And I'm not trying to burst your bubble or get you down. It's today's reality. Things could change in a few years, though many folks have been wishful-thinking for awhile now.
As for going to a regional and not sitting reserve for 6 months to a year. Good luck with that. Look at the industry..... and who's bankrupt or about to be bankrupt. Things are slow. Attrition and movement is not like the mid to late 90s. Expect to be on reserve for at least 3-4 months at any regional you're hired at. Maybe Colgan has quick movement. I can't think of really any stable, healthy reigonals that are showing quick movement up the list.
And I'm not trying to burst your bubble or get you down. It's today's reality. Things could change in a few years, though many folks have been wishful-thinking for awhile now.
Last edited by CRM1337; 12-08-2005 at 09:06 PM.
12-09-2005, 06:22 AM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: 737 FO...
Posts: 204
I think you missed the boat, dude. A year ago you could get on with SkyWest, XJET, PINCL, Comair, ASA, Eagle, and not sit a day of reserve. I'm pretty sure those days are over, so if you are too scared to sit reserve, I'd get reeeeal comfortable in that twotter.
Mookie
Mookie
12-09-2005, 06:29 AM
#6
Cactus Aviator
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Learning to fly with my left hand.
Posts: 250
No kidding, are you for real? Here's a news flash for you junior, you don't stop paying dues even AFTER you get hired by an airline. I'm in my thirties at a major, been here for over a year and I'm STILL on reserve. So, stop whinning about something that hasen't even happened to you yet, get used to it cause it's inevitable.
12-09-2005, 07:24 PM
#8
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by daytonaflyer
There's no reason to be rude, guys. Some people on these boards are intent to do more harm than good to honest pilots asking honest questions.
I'm not a noob; I have been working in this business for a few years. I am currently employed by an airline. I don't plan on staying at a regional forever, I just want to get some jet time.
Now are there any pilots out there who can let me know how long the new FO's are sitting on reserve at their airline?
I'm not a noob; I have been working in this business for a few years. I am currently employed by an airline. I don't plan on staying at a regional forever, I just want to get some jet time.
Now are there any pilots out there who can let me know how long the new FO's are sitting on reserve at their airline?
some of you younger guys crack me up. it's "pay for training" then you take your whole 250 hours to some "regional" like gulfstream and worry about sitting reserve for 6 months so you can get your hands on "a jet".
"i want years of experience and i want it NOW!" LOL!!!
12-09-2005, 10:41 PM
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 108
I don't fly for an airline... but have never stopped paying my dues for the last 16 years. Sorry guys if some of these comments get your feathers ruffled, but Kill Bill has a point.. Consider yourself lucky to be in a cockpit. It's all timing and being prepared when an opportunity presents itself. If you get frustrated each time your not just handed the keys, you've chosen a career that will present you lots of frustration. Just sit back and watch the clouds roll by regardless of what seat your in or what company your flying for. I'm not saying don't prepare and plan ahead... but don't sweat a few months of reserve... after all.. you chose it.
12-10-2005, 02:08 PM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by daytonaflyer
**Kill Bill, I am an ATP with approx. 2000 hours, not exactly a newbie. I am also 30 years old, not exactly a young guy. I have never paid for training, nor will I ever. If you're going to try and insult me for no reason, at least get some of it correct! Do you make this many errors when you're flying your B737? I swear, some of you old, bitter guys just need to stay off these boards, you're not helping anybody.
my suggestion is that you keep your yap shut and try to actually learn something on these boards. it's FAR better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
i've seen lots of new guys on here with almost NO time with better attitudes than you. i would be HAPPY to mentor guys like that anytime i was asked. but then, i came up the hard way; years of instructing and flying ****ty jobs to make myself employable, not one of the "instant-gratification-pay-for-training" types or someone that wants the keys to "the jet" yesterday. it took me 14 or 15 years to make captain and i upgraded at the earliest possible time. i'm sure whining about 6 months on reserve would have gotten me far.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
