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Old 10-18-2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
What???? no toilet your missing the point here completely.......... Do you know how CPA's work?
Yes I do. You're saying 75% of your flying is for CAL so CAL is paying for 75% of your costs. Except they aren't. CAL is just paying for completed flights that's it. A negotiated amount per flight. if your CEO gets a fat pay increase CAL isn't writing a check for 75% of it. CAL is only responsible for 75% of your income NOT for 75% of your costs which is a huge difference. I don't think I'm missing the point here completely. You say you guys have a ton of money in the bank so they aren't worried.


I say they are ^^^
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Old 10-18-2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Yes I do. You're saying 75% of your flying is for CAL so CAL is paying for 75% of your costs. Except they aren't. CAL is just paying for completed flights that's it. A negotiated amount per flight. if your CEO gets a fat pay increase CAL isn't writing a check for 75% of it. CAL is only responsible for 75% of your income NOT for 75% of your costs which is a huge difference. I don't think I'm missing the point here completely. You say you guys have a ton of money in the bank so they aren't worried.


I say they are ^^^
Jesus you brought out the charts and everything ha? Yea your right they are concerned about the future of the company as am I, but our losses were due to the start-up of the branded, that is done. We dont need to do that every quarter so I think well be in good shape, and if the branded doesn't pick up and it just isn't working, then we give the airplanes back and a bunch of F/Os get furloughed, what do you want me to say?
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Old 10-18-2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Yes and our 50 seat Regional pay is better than your 76 seat regional pay, maybe you should stop busting my balls and start in on your pilot group to demand higher pay.............


I dont think I wrote that Colgan sucks in that post either
Have you even seen XJT's contract before the current one? Blew like no other. RAH had the best out there esp since post 9/11. Thank your current one for have our shoulders to stand on while being built. I don't plan on being here when our next one rolls out but it will be much better than XJTs current one. It's the nature of things. One set of years regional A is better and the next set of years regional B is better. They feed off one another to make each other stronger. Now come down off the cross XJT didn't do anything special with the contract they did what was predicted and expected. How much you wanna bet RAH gets rigs after ASA got them? It's what's to be expected. Natural progression.
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Old 10-18-2007 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Jesus you brought out the charts and everything ha? Yea your right they are concerned about the future of the company as am I, but our losses were due to the start-up of the branded, that is done. We dont need to do that every quarter so I think well be in good shape, and if the branded doesn't pick up and it just isn't working, then we give the airplanes back and a bunch of F/Os get furloughed, what do you want me to say?
The start-up is never done. They'll always be moving routes, opening gates here and closing gates there. They'll have to do what it takes to avoid the codeshares they already fly for.Hate to break it but it's already been two quarters. If XJT wants to play ball they need to join an alliance which they can't do.

And yes I broke out the charts because until then it's just incoherent rambling from the crowd.
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Old 10-18-2007 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
The start-up is never done. They'll always be moving routes, opening gates here and closing gates there. They'll have to do what it takes to avoid the codeshares they already fly for.Hate to break it but it's already been two quarters. If XJT wants to play ball they need to join an alliance which they can't do.

And yes I broke out the charts because until then it's just incoherent rambling from the crowd.
your like that kid in college that asks questions just to show the professor you care, or the kid that gets a 90% on the exam and asks everyone what they got knowing you did better, your kind of annoying.................
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Old 10-18-2007 | 06:38 PM
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annoying....now isnt that the pot calling the kettle black......LOL

And DEMARC......yea S5 is a feeder.... never said it wasnt...simply pointing out that are *****es are with management not between PILOT groups.
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Old 10-18-2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
your like that kid in college that asks questions just to show the professor you care, or the kid that gets a 90% on the exam and asks everyone what they got knowing you did better, your kind of annoying.................
I don't get your statement. First off it's "you're" a conjunction of you and are. Secondly all I've done is show and state factual information. You jump right in with comments like
yeah $280.000.000.00 in the bank, we are def feeling the crunch
Then when someone mentions how Air Indy went through cash quickly
Well its a good thing our business model is completely different than Air Indy......
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Yeah genius and 75% of our income is a guaranteed one from CAL.................
Isn't everyone's income guaranteed by who they fly for?

Or shall we go with the "I'm with XJT and we are always better" statements of yours?
Get off the "Expressjet is in deep Sh*t bandwagon", things are always changing and we have a much brighter management team than Colgan, I wouldn't worry so much about us and I would start to worry about your new leader and the fact that you don't have a union, while your at I would worry about your payrates as well...........
Dont talk to us about our pay, we practically lead the pay for 50 seaters................
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I would rather work with "starry-eyed" people who believe in their management than an apathetic group like your bunch.......
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Yes and our 50 seat Regional pay is better than your 76 seat regional pay
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Im going to bed I have to wake up early to go fly a "Major Airline route for $33.64/hr ($34.64 Dec 1 )
Then when you try to be a smart arse by going here
What???? no toilet your missing the point here completely.......... Do you know how CPA's work?
I decide to post something factual that makes sense but counters your previous statements and we wind up here
Yea your right they are concerned about the future of the company as am I
You always seem to come out of the closet like some starry eyed little kid with big dreams of your company saying things like "Our contracts the best" and "We are awesome and you're not" and "Your company is worse then ours" and "if we had bigger aircraft we'd pay better even though we don't have to" and lets not forget "We were part of Continental and like hiring from us over yall" then I post one little bit of "reality" and you turn into the little kid that just got his lollipop hoejacked by some bully.

You were stating how this thread is comical and I agree 100%. You go from "I'm king of the hill here at XJT" to "You posted something true and now my feelings are hurt and I can't rant on anyone else about their company being crap boo hooo ".
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Old 10-18-2007 | 07:50 PM
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Hooooly smokes, Toilet (we abort for that warning msg on the rwy btw LoL)...

You have entirely way too much time on your hands HAHA...Does RAH not fly you hard enough ;-)

FWIW, w/o picking a fight between you and monkey, thank you for the facts - it's appreciated by all - sometimes this board is nothing but ramblings and inconsistencies!
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Old 10-18-2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
And when I fly an ILS I do use the F/D, even the A/P sometimes, because my airline pays me to fly people from A to B as safely as possible, not try and prove myself to my CA's.
Some might argue that the safest way possible is by not allowing your instrument and stick 'n rudder skills lapse (for that one time that the band-aid F/D or A/P has kicked the bucket)...just an observation nothing more. I hope everybody here tries their luck once in a while raw-data...the Jets aren't that scary ;-)
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Old 10-18-2007 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
But, everyone warned you guys about branded flying. You're management team though..."Hey who doesn't want to fly nonstop from Jacksonville to Tulsa?" The answer is EVERYONE.

Hey hey heeey, the XJet TUL-ONT route has been a godsend for me and my family. Seems like the west coast flights have been filling pretty nicely around here. Also, XJet's buzz in Oklahoma is phenomenal. I haven't heard one complaint about them. Just praise over the staff and the service.
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