Washing out.
10-29-2007 | 01:51 PM
#81
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From: Canadair Gosh
Ok, its a dead giveaway now
My old instructor had me use her pink Hello Kitty calculator on all my checkrides from private to CFI.
There's no better way to relax and laugh a little on a stressful checkride than to look down and see that you're punching in complex weight and balance calculations on big pink buttons with sparkles.
Good luck with the rest of your sim rides. Since I will be doing the same thing soon, I can only imagine that the first few times in the sim I will be consistently 5 miles behind the plane and I will loose even more hair from the top of my head.
If you are meant to be a pilot, at some point everything will all click into place and you will wonder why you worried so much. I think its really a rite of passage in the airline world. Nobody said it was easy.
There's no better way to relax and laugh a little on a stressful checkride than to look down and see that you're punching in complex weight and balance calculations on big pink buttons with sparkles.
Good luck with the rest of your sim rides. Since I will be doing the same thing soon, I can only imagine that the first few times in the sim I will be consistently 5 miles behind the plane and I will loose even more hair from the top of my head.
If you are meant to be a pilot, at some point everything will all click into place and you will wonder why you worried so much. I think its really a rite of passage in the airline world. Nobody said it was easy.
10-29-2007 | 05:29 PM
#83
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From: 777 FO
av8r_2007,
I don't know if XJT is anything like SKYW but what happened in the sim might follow you, by reputation, to IOE. It is not the best thing probably but most instructors give each other the heads up on who is coming to fly with them.
Just my two bits here: study your butt off and get all the stuff down pat. You don't want to get in the real plane right when winter is setting in and not fly well. It really isn't over until you get your one-year probationary PC check. At least it is not here at SKYW.
All the best!
I don't know if XJT is anything like SKYW but what happened in the sim might follow you, by reputation, to IOE. It is not the best thing probably but most instructors give each other the heads up on who is coming to fly with them.
Just my two bits here: study your butt off and get all the stuff down pat. You don't want to get in the real plane right when winter is setting in and not fly well. It really isn't over until you get your one-year probationary PC check. At least it is not here at SKYW.
All the best!
10-29-2007 | 06:46 PM
#84
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From: Student Pilot
I beg to differ.. have you ever jumpseated on an MD-88? I had a former F-18 guy who told me his legs felt like death after no one warned him about what happens if you dont use the fold out foot rests. I heeded his advice to use them but my legs still fell dead asleep during half the flight! :``T
10-29-2007 | 07:21 PM
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Actually, the sim intructors here are awesome! I think I was really overwhelmed and had my tunel vision glasses on initially and missed some fundamental knowledge. I am just so glad that my sim intructors were able to catch it before it was too late to retrain. Yesturday's lesson is one of the hardest and I had no trouble at all. It was actually a lot of fun. The only thing messed up was when my partner and I got a pitch trim failure. I was tying to hold the yoke back with all my stregth and with my knees. Little girl arms require quicker reaction in those situations :O
I don't think anyone will be passing along a, "watch out for this one," during my IOE. Though I will be sure and include it in all my briefings, lol.
I don't think anyone will be passing along a, "watch out for this one," during my IOE. Though I will be sure and include it in all my briefings, lol.
10-29-2007 | 07:24 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Actually, the sim intructors here are awesome! I think I was really overwhelmed and had my tunel vision glasses on initially and missed some fundamental knowledge. I am just so glad that my sim intructors were able to catch it before it was too late to retrain. Yesturday's lesson is one of the hardest and I had no trouble at all. It was actually a lot of fun. The only thing messed up was when my partner and I got a pitch trim failure. I was tying to hold the yoke back with all my stregth and with my knees. Little girl arms require quicker reaction in those situations :O
I don't think anyone will be passing along a, "watch out for this one," during my IOE. Though I will be sure and include it in all my briefings, lol.
I don't think anyone will be passing along a, "watch out for this one," during my IOE. Though I will be sure and include it in all my briefings, lol.
If it makes you feel better, my sim partnet played football in college and was still struggling. Only way to fly the thing was with me doing the throttles and helping to pull on the yoke.
10-29-2007 | 10:23 PM
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From: CL65 First Officer
My buddy washed out today here at ASA,we were close from day one, he busted his ass, but jsut couldnt get past the sim I couldnt beleive it when he told me....he had his flows, callouts and profiles down cold, but he just froze when he got into the box, he hadnt gotten through sim lesson 5, they give you 8 for the program but have been giving more if people if need be, its unfortunate,, he really worked hard and had a good attitude, the thing that sucks most is that he didnt resign, it was categorized as a washout....not sure what his plans are now , he packed his stuff at the hotel and drove away this afternoon, its tough cause he was very close, but if they think you wont make it , its a tough reality to face as not passing the training can and will happen to some...
10-30-2007 | 01:30 AM
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Yeah, you're right - it doesn't show up, except how do you explain the week or more of training there and the sudden resignation? I definitely think a pilot can get through that type of blemish on his/her record but no one should be naive enough to think the recruiters won't understand what really happened there. Besides, everyone knows aviation is such a small world. The “recruiter world” is even smaller – most of them know each other very well. The all go to the very same job fairs 3, or 4 times a year, maybe even more often…
10-30-2007 | 02:01 AM
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Av8tr – good luck with the rest of your training. It sounds to me like you were slightly overwhelmed with your training a few days ago and had a tiny version of a panic attack trying to figure out all the “what iffs" in your life.
Remember, no matter what happens to you – you’ll be fine – you’re not the first person who’s had some problems in training.
Based on your recent posts it sounds to me like things are getting a little better and I’m sure you’ll get through the training just fine. Remember to “chair fly” with your sim partner as much as you can, the more the better. If your sim partner is “busy” or doesn’t want to practice as much as you do, see if there’s someone else in that class who’d be interested in some extra “chair flying?”
Also, before you begin your IOE, try to jumpseat numerous times on your airline so you get to see the flows, the callouts, and the procedures with your own eyes. It’ll help you immensely.
Good luck to you and keep us posted.
Remember, no matter what happens to you – you’ll be fine – you’re not the first person who’s had some problems in training.
Based on your recent posts it sounds to me like things are getting a little better and I’m sure you’ll get through the training just fine. Remember to “chair fly” with your sim partner as much as you can, the more the better. If your sim partner is “busy” or doesn’t want to practice as much as you do, see if there’s someone else in that class who’d be interested in some extra “chair flying?”
Also, before you begin your IOE, try to jumpseat numerous times on your airline so you get to see the flows, the callouts, and the procedures with your own eyes. It’ll help you immensely.
Good luck to you and keep us posted.
10-30-2007 | 05:08 AM
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From: Body at sea level; heart at 70,000+
Thanks. You folks proved me wrong and I appreciate it. For months I have been a cynic thinking "Regional pilots eat their dead. THey are in it for themselves." Then you come along with some really inspiring posts and help a "brother " who is stressed out. It's a refreshing change from combative or ocassionally personally demeaning posts. My hat is off to you !
