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Cubdriver 06-18-2013 04:05 PM

What's the latest news on their in/ability to fill classes? Not turning out to be a huge problem?

680crewchief 06-19-2013 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1430448)
What's the latest news on their in/ability to fill classes? Not turning out to be a huge problem?

The mass exodus has begun. ZK can't hire and people are leaving as fast as they can. The slow death is occurring. They are just right seating captains, but at some point the stop gap will cease to work.

Cubdriver 06-19-2013 06:58 AM

Well the one guy I keep up with said he was definitely leaving soon, probably gone by now, but I think his reasoning was that he couldn't pass his upgrade training. I would be curious how many people are showing up for the new hire classes these days.

680crewchief 06-19-2013 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1430707)
Well the one guy I keep up with said he was definitely leaving soon, probably gone by now, but I think his reasoning was that he can't pass the upgrade training. I would be curious how many people are showing up for the new hire classes these days.

I believe the number is four new hires so far this year. Four. We had more than four resign just last week.

JohnnyG 06-19-2013 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by 680crewchief (Post 1430708)
I believe the number is four new hires so far this year. Four. We had more than four resign just last week.

I personally know of more than that. Surely the number is much higher.

No regionals are having trouble filling classes. I keep hearing that and it's not true.

680crewchief 06-19-2013 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1430782)
I personally know of more than that. Surely the number is much higher.

No regionals are having trouble filling classes. I keep hearing that and it's not true.

Believe whatever you want to believe.

Cubdriver 06-19-2013 09:15 AM

I tend to agree from what I know, read, and hear there is no pilot shortage at the regionals yet, and people are applying in same numbers as before. But I also hear that classes are not being filled like at GLA, Eagle, XJT, PDT, and a few others. Obviously HR departments for various reasons are not grabbing these guys and training them to fly airliners. I know in my case I have attended a number of airline interviews and received not a single offer despite some admittedly good interviews. I may not be a pilot rock star, but I can be trained to fly these airplanes safely, and in my view HR is the problem. Perhaps there has been a reduction in pilot supply HR does not get and they still think they can skim off the rock stars.

680crewchief 06-19-2013 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1430805)
I tend to agree from what I know, read, and hear there is no pilot shortage at the regionals yet, and people are applying in same numbers as before. But I also hear that classes are not being filled like at GLA, Eagle, XJT, PDT, and a few others. Obviously HR departments for various reasons are not grabbing these guys and training them to fly airliners. I know in my case I have attended a number of airline interviews and received not a single offer despite some admittedly good interviews. I may not be a pilot rock star, but I can be trained to fly these airplanes safely, and in my view HR is the problem. Perhaps there has been a reduction in pilot supply HR does not get and they still think they can skim off the rock stars.

I will say I have run into quite a few that have had interviews at different regionals and been turned down. Almost all of these guys are pretty sharp and I myself wonder why the regionals aren't picking them up. I would think they would be on their knees thanking whoever they worship that anybody wants to work for these wages and get kicked in the face on a daily basis...did I say that out loud?

680crewchief 06-19-2013 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyG (Post 1430782)
No regionals are having trouble filling classes. I keep hearing that and it's not true.

You do have a valid point as ZK is not a regional airline. They might call themselves a regional, but they're not. It's just a paid internship with credits earned towards a Master's degree in aviating...or so I've heard.

What 06-19-2013 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1430805)
I tend to agree from what I know, read, and hear there is no pilot shortage at the regionals yet, and people are applying in same numbers as before. But I also hear that classes are not being filled like at GLA, Eagle, XJT, PDT, and a few others.

Ok Mr. Moderator, you hame mentioned most of the regionals hiring. If they didn't have a problem filling classes then why is it that RAH can't staff over 50% of the Q400 they were awarded a year ago. Someone is paying leases on these airplanes while they sit in the desert.


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1430805)
Obviously HR departments for various reasons are not grabbing these guys and training them to fly airliners. I know in my case I have attended a number of airline interviews and received not a single offer despite some admittedly good interviews. I may not be a pilot rock star, but I can be trained to fly these airplanes safely, and in my view HR is the problem. Perhaps there has been a reduction in pilot supply HR does not get and they still think they can skim off the rock stars.

You have attended a number, meaning you have attended various of interviews but you are not being offered a job. Sorry pal but there is something wrong with you or you have so much time that they don't think you will be there long enough for ROI. You mentioned that you can be trained to fly these airplanes safely and I am not sure if you are implying that your flying has some areas that require work before you can attend 121 training.


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