I misspoke...I counted four new hires on the seniority list going back about four months.

New hires this year? We had quite a few since January, but since about April has slowed to one or two a month showing up for class.

My apologies for the misinformation.

While your points may be valid, go easy! The pilot on pilot violence!:D

I didn't say they were able to fill those classes, I said I am pretty sure they are not really trying to or are totally ineffective at the task. I have ample evidence there is currently no pilot shortage. Why would they let them sit idle? I have no real clue. Incompetence probably. They sure aren't trying very hard to get me in any of them, and they were definitely incompetent at my interview. I also know lots of other pilots who are having the same issues. We apply, we interview, we go home.

It might be my age is a bit high and they are profiling a bit maybe, no 121 or military background and no turbine time. But more than those things I think it is incompetence in their HR departments. In connection with the latter, I had one one of them tell me they had not received my PRIA forms when I indeed turned all of them them in. Another said that I had put sim hours into my total time; another said I had no pilot license at all. All baloney, totally ridiculous HR incompetence, what can I say. You can't do their job for them if they are going to be that dense.

Meant what I said. Perfectly trainable as-is. I am solid pilot material and have been for the last ten years. I have also about had enough of this punishing little industry. You seem to want to stick it on me on this thread and the Eagle thread that I can't get hired by a regional, but I do not buy it. Sorry, I just don't, and I do not buy that all these other folks I see going home are that bad either.

For the month of July, Great Lakes has ten open FO lines. 8 in DEN and two in other bases. In the DEN base (our largest) we have 27 FOs and 32 Lines. We have a zero reserves and a thousand+ hours of open FO time.

There may not be a pilot shortage elsewhere, but there sure is one here

I realize that my math above does not make much sense. Great Lakes has less than the 27 FOs in DEN that I said. I was looking at last months seniority list that does not include a few who have left and one who was, in my opinion, wrongfully terminated.

The 8 open lines and zero reserves in DEN is correct. However we do have a good number of CAs on RSV that will pretty much only fly in the right seat for the time being

Do they still get CA pay when they sit right seat?

yes we still get CA pay, but that is not helping us get the out of Lakes

The only way that I can see Great Lakes attracting enough pilots in the future is to hire street captains. Since the company is used to putting captains in the right seat, why not hire street captains and then throw them in the right seat most of the time. The only thing better than a one year upgrade time is no upgrade time!

Actually, I guess the new ATP rules will prevent flight instructors or anyone without prior 121 time from doing the street captain thing. Maybe Lakes will become a refuge for future furloughed regional pilots.. or not

Just don't do what some are doing and including that right seat time as PIC on a major resume/application. You can log it all you want but don't claim to be the PIC as defined by Part I.

They used to require 300 hours at Lakes before upgrade. The "street ca's" that have come through are old lakers who were furloughed from majors and needed a place to wait for recall.