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Old 11-22-2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bradeku1008
Man, not the news I nor any PSA pilots want to here. PSA has had nothing but bad luck the 2nd half of this year. I hope with the new year comes better luck. Im just curious why they keep on advertising that they are taking resumes to fill future vancancies if they arent going to get any additional flying in the near fututre? They have like 30 in the pool and we probably wont see a class date in the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2009

Like I said. Just a rumor. About a 10th hand hearsay at that. I'll believe when I see it.
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Old 11-23-2008 | 06:44 PM
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Like I said. Just a rumor. About a 10th hand hearsay at that. I'll believe when I see it.
I heard the same rumor but it went something to the tune of TK was bragging to a recurent class that he could furlough another 28 if he wanted to. Personaly I don't take anything TK says seriously. He also said in my indoc class that Airways told him they wanted wholyowneds doing at least 50% of the Express flying yet it seams I have been seeing more AWC at CLT. From what I have been hearing the Reserve guys are still not doing much flying however the lines are still heavy. TK would have alot better arguement to furlough more if there were not so many heavy lines.
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Old 11-24-2008 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Atwoo155
I heard the same rumor but it went something to the tune of TK was bragging to a recurent class that he could furlough another 28 if he wanted to. Personaly I don't take anything TK says seriously. He also said in my indoc class that Airways told him they wanted wholyowneds doing at least 50% of the Express flying yet it seams I have been seeing more AWC at CLT. From what I have been hearing the Reserve guys are still not doing much flying however the lines are still heavy. TK would have alot better arguement to furlough more if there were not so many heavy lines.
I dont see why Airways wouldnt want PSA/PDT doing 50% of Express flying. It makes more sence to me that if you have wholyowned regionals you would utilize them more than airlines like Mesa, RAH, AWC and TSA. If Mesa goes BK then I would only hope that PSA/PDT would pick up a majority of their flying.
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Old 11-24-2008 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bradeku1008
I dont see why Airways wouldnt want PSA/PDT doing 50% of Express flying. It makes more sence to me that if you have wholyowned regionals you would utilize them more than airlines like Mesa, RAH, AWC and TSA. If Mesa goes BK then I would only hope that PSA/PDT would pick up a majority of their flying.
It would make sense. (which is why it will never happen) However it would cost Airways a lot of money in new airframes. Money that they are much more interested in spending on revenue creating international flying. To give PSA/PDT more flying they would first need to put more aircraft on property. That is the big problem. Airways can leasing the flying to places like MESA for not much more than it takes for PSA to fly it and have the outside company go out and secure financing for aircraft, and find their own maintenance. The next step is what delta is moving toward in making outside companies pay for their own fuel. Making the independent companies pay for fuel may kill them or it may make then even more enticing to major airlines. All this makes it harder in the short run to justify spending all that money to put more airframes in the hands of wholly owned just to spend less afterward. It is like spending a dollar to save a dime.

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Old 11-24-2008 | 11:00 AM
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Well when the day comes that the contract carriers pay for their own gas they are going to be in for a surprise.
Gone will be the 10% profit margins.
It doesn't make sense to me that US Air has 10 different regional carriers. Although Air Wiskey and Republic did lend them some money so they are going to be around for a while.
Regionals will not be getting more flying now that there are furloughed pilots from mainline on the street.
What you see today is what you are going to see in a year from now. Except that Mesa collapse is going to spread some flying about. DOn't think that a wholly owned is anything better than elsewhere. Go to republic or air wiskey or sky west before you even think about going to PSA. I can see upgrades looking like American Eagle....10 years...
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Old 11-24-2008 | 11:14 AM
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Gloom and Doom is coool, mmmmkay?
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Old 11-24-2008 | 11:25 AM
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Regional may not be getting any more flying anytime soon but that was never the point. It is more about how they flying that they do have is doled out.
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Old 11-24-2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by seafeye
Well when the day comes that the contract carriers pay for their own gas they are going to be in for a surprise.
Gone will be the 10% profit margins.
It doesn't make sense to me that US Air has 10 different regional carriers. Although Air Wiskey and Republic did lend them some money so they are going to be around for a while.
Regionals will not be getting more flying now that there are furloughed pilots from mainline on the street.
What you see today is what you are going to see in a year from now. Except that Mesa collapse is going to spread some flying about. DOn't think that a wholly owned is anything better than elsewhere. Go to republic or air wiskey or sky west before you even think about going to PSA. I can see upgrades looking like American Eagle....10 years...
I hope it is enough to get all the recalls back and drain the pool. Wish they were hiring, although I did hear that RAH and Skywest will be in the next year.
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Old 11-24-2008 | 11:47 AM
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you guys have a 90 seat payscale in your contract???? Just Curious
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Old 11-24-2008 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
you guys have a 90 seat payscale in your contract???? Just Curious
We are not to speak of that!!
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