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11-27-2008 | 06:13 AM
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11-27-2008 | 06:45 AM
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You still need to cover the routes left by Mesa. It's the routes we want at PSA, not the jets. As for the jets, they were already J4J planes which can not be used for that again. The only scenario I can see that hapening is if the two unions miraculously pull off a flow-thru/flow-back agreement in which case, we would still be furloughed until mainline flowed thier guys plus some back to mainline.
11-27-2008 | 03:08 PM
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You still need to cover the routes left by Mesa. It's the routes we want at PSA, not the jets. As for the jets, they were already J4J planes which can not be used for that again. The only scenario I can see that hapening is if the two unions miraculously pull off a flow-thru/flow-back agreement in which case, we would still be furloughed until mainline flowed thier guys plus some back to mainline.
11-27-2008 | 03:22 PM
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Thats where your wrong. If anything, mainline will want the jets here. If there is any net gan in airplanes, jforj will be back in effect. It does not matter whether or not USAPA or ALPA represent mainline. It's contractual. TK told us this in recurrent. No fow-thru/back will be negotiatied with mainline pilots on furlough. PSA couldnt care less about routes as long as they are not more expensive to operate.
11-28-2008 | 05:43 AM
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Mainline couldn't care less about a flowthru. Under jforj, there was supposed to be a flowthru but as of now there hasn't been one. there was preferential hiring, but not a flowthru like there was supposed to be. Only a flow back, which IS what they care about. From my understanding, jforj is over and done with unless there is growth here at PSA. I dont really see how our ALPA has any motivation to negotiate a flowthru now the mainline is USAPA. Why help guys to flow to a non-apla carrrier? Thats less money for ALPA national. And yes, our management couldn't wait to get rid of jforj. I think there were several of them here that caused headaches.
11-28-2008 | 10:06 AM
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Mainline couldn't care less about a flowthru. Under jforj, there was supposed to be a flowthru but as of now there hasn't been one. there was preferential hiring, but not a flowthru like there was supposed to be. Only a flow back, which IS what they care about. From my understanding, jforj is over and done with unless there is growth here at PSA. I dont really see how our ALPA has any motivation to negotiate a flowthru now the mainline is USAPA. Why help guys to flow to a non-apla carrrier? Thats less money for ALPA national. And yes, our management couldn't wait to get rid of jforj. I think there were several of them here that caused headaches.
11-28-2008 | 11:08 AM
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That's what I am sying though. J4J, flowthru, Mesa's -900's or any other aircraft mean nothing without people being recalled. J4J requires all PSA pilots to be back before we accept furloughed mainline guys. Also, I think I said it earlier, there is a overage of 70+ seat RJ's at the Airways regionals. USAPA will be trying to bring the numbers down by dwindling the -900's that Mesa would give up. We at PSA don't need the -900's. We need more routes and more hours. That's why I don't care what the heck happens to the -900's. I want the routes that Mesa flies. Our aircraft currently can handle the extra flying as they are flying nowhere near the max amount that they could handle. Let mainline and USAPA do what they want with the -900's, give us the routes.
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