We still operate 17 dashes throughout CO, WY, SD, AZ, CA and Mexico.

I can't imagine you guys giving the staple to the whole pilot group. Even the biggest skanks in the world wouldn't see the right in that.

The airways contract is not up until at least 2010-11.

If there's truth to this, I'm going to need to re-start looking for a new job.

 

Not that I do but couldn't I think the same thing about someone coming in and cutting into my seniority increasing my upgrade time?

I guess those Southwest guys are a bunch of $%&@ for what they did to Morris? They stapled the Morris guys but kept there pay. That was alot better than showing them the street or just stapling without keeping their pay. Anyways..........

 

Its the case if seniority lists are integrated. It doesn't matter if the company merges or acquires another.

This would never happen with the new Allegheny Mohawk law signed this past December. As far as cutting into seniority and increasing upgrade time, it should be "fair and equitable." What is fair and equitable? That is between Mesa pilots, since they have a voice because they are represented by a union that is recognized by the NMB, and Skywest management to decide.

 

yeah I mean if mesa is that close to bankruptcy many might like the idea of a continued job with the same pay.

 

It's kind of funny. Is there any other industry where one company completely buys out another and is FORCED to hire all the previous companies employees? I am not saying this is or isn't a good thing it's just interesting to think about. Don't companies acquire other companies at times just to take their business and shut the acquired company down? I would in no way want to see this happen to any Mesa pilots or any pilot for that matter I am just curious how it works.

 

Could this be why Johnny Boy just bought a bunch of stock?

 

They are not forced to hire all the pilots. If they wanted to buy Mesa and only keep the CRJ, for example, they would not need all of Mesa's pilots. The merged seniority lists, if they do merge them, would decide who is junior and get furloughed. Whats the difference to the company which pilots are furloughed? I mean really. To the company, a pilot is a pilot is a pilot. And in this hypothetical, the acquiring company would be a party in the decision of what is "fair and equitable" anyways.

 

How did this rumor start? Was the person who started this currently in the sim or do they know someone who is in training?

 

It depends on the purpose of the acquisition. If the acquisition was to eliminate a competitor and increase market share, a lot of times the assets and personnel of the acquired company will remain (with the exception of redundant positions or overlaps) in order to handle the increased business. Why fire people that already know the ins and outs of the job, the client base, and the legal/regulatory environment for no other reason than that they were part of the acquired just so you can rehire, retrain and relearn a bunch of new employees? So while the company that was acquired may seem to "cease to exist" in reality the assets and people frequently are still there doing the same jobs but with a different name on their paychecks.

Now if the purpose of the acquisition was to break up and sell off parts of a company then thats a different story and is usually more painful for the employees involved and typically results in significant loss of jobs and shedding of assets all in the name of short-term gains for the shareholders of the acquiring company.

As far as being "forced" to take on the work force of the acquired company, I don't know for sure of any other industry that is "forced" to take on those employees. If the airline industry is truly "forced" to take on those employees through state or federal law, then I can only imagine it has to do with the necessary role air transportation plays in the national economy and transportation infrastructure. Its the same reason we can't strike at the drop of a hat. But when you think about it, forced or not, its in the acquiring company's best interest to take on those existing employees at the acquired company because the alternative is a lot of airplanes and gate space sitting idle and vacant until you can hire and train new employees. That, my friend is an expensive proposition and does little to benefit anyone.

 

I am in sim and talked to a few senior (yeah i know that means nothing) sim guys