Are F/Os really scum?
#91

Not talking about NonReving...talking about getting a seat in the back....not necessary to check in with the captain because the flight deck crew is usually very busy trying to quick turn the airplane.
It is a professional courtesy but also if the crew looks busy it is much more professional to not bother them.
My 02 cents.
It is a professional courtesy but also if the crew looks busy it is much more professional to not bother them.
My 02 cents.
Just a word of caution if you jumpseat on Delta. If the agent gives you a seat in the back you better check in or you will be watching the plane depart without you. While there are a few captains who don't care, there are a lot more captains who do.
As for the guy not introducing himself, there are always a few like that at every airline. As an FO though, there is no law that precludes you from introducing yourself to the jumpseater, no need to wait for them to make the first move. Be assertive.

#92

If you package yourself up in a large cardboard box, and ship yourself UPS/FEDEX/DHL, and ride in the cargo hold, should you still introduce yourself to the Captain?
Is it ok to wait until you are airborne to do so?
Thanks for the help.
Is it ok to wait until you are airborne to do so?
Thanks for the help.
#93
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A few months back I had to ride the jumpseat on mainline trying to get to CVG to work. I introduce myself to the crew and present my stuff. The CA looks at my sruff with kind of a pi##ed of look on his face. The conversation went something like this.
CA: "I really don't give two shi*s about Comair"
ME: "Neither do I, so can I have a ride
"
CA: "Welcome aboard!"

CA: "I really don't give two shi*s about Comair"
ME: "Neither do I, so can I have a ride

CA: "Welcome aboard!"

Well done. Mission accomplished.
#97

I don't want them to talk to me. All I want is a little courtesy.
And when it comes to the above post about the capt approving the jumpseat, thats not how it works at my airline. If the cabin is full, and you're in CASS, you've got a ride in the j/s, no questions asked. Actually, in this case, with this guy being DL, he would be permitted in the j/s even if the cabin weren't full.
And when it comes to the above post about the capt approving the jumpseat, thats not how it works at my airline. If the cabin is full, and you're in CASS, you've got a ride in the j/s, no questions asked. Actually, in this case, with this guy being DL, he would be permitted in the j/s even if the cabin weren't full.
#98
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Not sure which airline the guy you’re responding to works for, but I got the impression at mine that technically the captain could deny the J/S but the rest of the company/union would think they were a colossal jerk for doing so. There’d need to be a really solid reason.
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Whether those Captains care because of:
A. I’m the Captain and they must kiss the ring.
B. They want to know who is back there in the case of an emergency.
The FOM doesn’t say they need to check in. I’m guessing we are given that guidance for a reason. I would recommend checking in as a jump seater but leaving someone for not doing so is incorrect.
Honestly, most of the guys that fit into A. from above would have a re-education conversation before they left someone behind.
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