Are F/Os really scum?
11-02-2018, 09:52 PM
#102
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Originally Posted by cornbeef007
I think your being a little dramatic....
Whether those Captains care because of:
A. I’m the Captain and they must kiss the ring.
B. They want to know who is back there in the case of an emergency.
The FOM doesn’t say they need to check in. I’m guessing we are given that guidance for a reason. I would recommend checking in as a jump seater but leaving someone for not doing so is incorrect.
Honestly, most of the guys that fit into A. from above would have a re-education conversation before they left someone behind.
Whether those Captains care because of:
A. I’m the Captain and they must kiss the ring.
B. They want to know who is back there in the case of an emergency.
The FOM doesn’t say they need to check in. I’m guessing we are given that guidance for a reason. I would recommend checking in as a jump seater but leaving someone for not doing so is incorrect.
Honestly, most of the guys that fit into A. from above would have a re-education conversation before they left someone behind.
11-03-2018, 01:35 AM
#104
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Originally Posted by Baradium
The FOM does say they need to check in. It's a bit confusing because it uses the term "flight deck jumpseater" but it still calls them that even if seated in the cabin.
11-05-2018, 06:14 AM
#106
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Pretty sure the guy in question worked for COMAIR! That’s how old this thread is. Things have changed a little in the TEN YEARS since this thread started.
There is a good reason for having cabin jumpseaters check in... many 135 operations "encourage" their pilots to use JS privilege to re-position to pick up airplanes (total violation of JS policy and intent).
The gate agent will let them on but in many cases they don't even have an agreement and are not listed in the FOM. So you're giving someone a free ride, who should be buying a ticket, so he can compete for your airlines premium pax...
Last edited by rickair7777; 11-05-2018 at 06:25 AM.
11-05-2018, 06:36 AM
#107
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To add, any 135 operator having JS privileges using them when they should be billing the charter customer ticket cost is one, probably billing them anyway and two, probably skirting a lot of other rules. Charter 135 is a cutthroat business.
I didn’t realize they could get JS privileges..
GF
I didn’t realize they could get JS privileges..
GF
11-05-2018, 01:02 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
To add, any 135 operator having JS privileges using them when they should be billing the charter customer ticket cost is one, probably billing them anyway and two, probably skirting a lot of other rules. Charter 135 is a cutthroat business.
I didn’t realize they could get JS privileges..
GF
I didn’t realize they could get JS privileges..
GF
11-05-2018, 01:25 PM
#109
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Originally Posted by dera
Plenty of 135 companies have CASS programs.
11-05-2018, 02:12 PM
#110
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
But that doesn't mean they have an agreement with any particular airline, but the gate agents often don't know that.
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