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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:09 AM
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Do you think we will ever see the Sukhoi SuperJet in the US?

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/sukhoi/
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:12 AM
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Do you think we'll see any of the majors cave on more scope clauses?

If not, what about if they are in bankruptcy again?
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:13 AM
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Wow...that sounds like an essay question.. sorry guys!
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Roper92
Do you think we'll see any of the majors cave on more scope clauses?

If not, what about if they are in bankruptcy again?
There is an undisclosed US operator that has placed an order for 16 CRJ 1000's
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by groovinaviator
Do you think we will ever see the Sukhoi SuperJet in the US?

http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/sukhoi/
Unlikely. Both russia and china are developing RJ's, but their primary goal is to develop an ability to manufacturer modern airliners...they are both starting small with RJ's and hoping to move up later. Most customers appear domestic for both aircraft and there is no guarantee that either will achieve FAA certification, which is the gold standard for export aircraft in the first world.

The chinese airplane is actually optimized for specific routes in china.
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
There is an undisclosed US operator that has placed an order for 16 CRJ 1000's
Interesting. That's a pretty big amount of dollars being put out for airplanes...
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Roper92
Do you think we'll see any of the majors cave on more scope clauses?

If not, what about if they are in bankruptcy again?
I'm hoping that no one will voluntarily give up any further scope...I think even the dimmest guy at mainline now understands where that will lead.

BK is a wildcard of course, but even then there should be some room to negotiate with the judge, if not with the company.

The Japanese are also making a 70 and 90 seat RJ, and the technical specs look really good on that one...I'd be surprised if we don't see some of those in the US, and I wouldn't mind flying one myself.
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
not to big a deal. instead of flying 200's we will all be flying 900's. 900's can go into the same places that the 200 can go so nothing will really change. the kicker will be how many seats they put on those 900's and 170's
You're right, it's not that big of deal..... The EMB190, EMB195, and the CRJ 900 is already on Delta's current contract and will be on our future joint contract as we continue with the merger with NWA. Any larger aircraft that may possible replace the DC9's will be flown by mainline pilots. Anything that is greater than 76 seats will be flown by mainline pilots. It's the new trend. Richard Anderson does not like how Delta has lost control of it's product by allowing subcontractors to do the job, as witnessed by the termination of Mesa's contract.

I along with many other pilots at Delta are constantly in touch with our union reps about this very issue. Ultimately, I hope that mainline Delta will have many good pilot seats for those of you at the regionals can move into when this financial storm subsides. I'd like to see an industry where professional airline pilots have a solid career and be able to take care of their families instead of constantly being "whipsawed" against one another.

USAir and Air Canada mainline pilots are flying the EMB190,s as well as Jetblues pilots. The energy prices are killing all of us, but this is going to be the Regional Jets "9/11".

I sympathize with many of you, as I spent nearly three years on furlough at Delta. All I can say is we all need to tighten our belts and get our financial houses in order. It's going to get ugly.

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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Flitestar
Is there any aircraft in the drawing board (or in the market) from Bombardier or Embraer that can haul 90+ pax?
There's no indication that the C-series or the E-190 will ever be operated at the regional level i the US.

The C-series is a possible replacement for NWA's DC-9s.
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Old 05-23-2008 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I'm hoping that no one will voluntarily give up any further scope...I think even the dimmest guy at mainline now understands where that will lead.

BK is a wildcard of course, but even then there should be some room to negotiate with the judge, if not with the company.

The Japanese are also making a 70 and 90 seat RJ, and the technical specs look really good on that one...I'd be surprised if we don't see some of those in the US, and I wouldn't mind flying one myself.
For whatever is worth, our good, flashy and shiny new Cessna 162 Skycatchers are being built in China...
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