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Old 11-16-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue View Post
This is really a shame - I was in the April class, and everyone whom made it to sim - passed with out any problems, granted many of us have since left for greener pastures...

AQP takes a lot of work, studying flows, procedures, call outs, and reading section 9! They expect you to show up to each sim and expect the ONLY thing you to struggle with is nuances of the dash, nothing procedurally, and especially nothing instrument related.

Unfortunately, there is no consistency between instructors, some are very laid back, others it is their way (not the Piedmont way) or its wrong.

I really enjoyed my tenure at Piedmont, but love being at ExpressJet! The training is not AQP, and if you show up with a great attitude - you will make it through. They have a lot of experience in getting lower time guys successfully through training, and IOE, and on to the line. My class had everyone from 700 hour CFI's, to a furloughed NetJets Captain The line captains do not expect you to be an expert at the -145, and will all help you feel comfortable. Some people from my class needed a few extra sim slots, or FTD sessions, and that was fine!

The Dash, is a very capable aircraft, and is the epitome of 1980's tech. But, it is 1980's tech - remember how user-friendly and state of the art 'DOS' was, think of that, but in an aircraft...

It really is a shame, that Piedmont has to go to the bottom of the barrel to find pilots to fly an aircraft such as the dash. It is defiantly the hardest aircraft I have ever flown, and that list included King/Queen Air's, Turbo Commanders, and now -145's. Piedmont has/had so much potential to become a great airline, just so poorly managed by both Salisbury, and Tempe. Good luck to all the new hires!

-FlyPurdue
Hey just remember something flypurdue, Expressjet after acheiving SOC will get AQP, it is simply being put on hold. AQP is a wonderful program, its when you have the "old way" of thinking from Keen, Modlin, Pfeifle, and Wills that the best way to train someone is to smack them around mentally because they (the student) are having a hard time understanding it. At xjt, they really want to help you, they dont get their jollies off smacking you around. Show up prepared and there shouldnt be any problems, but when you got primadonas observing your performance even when you show up prepared, your screwed...
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue View Post
This is really a shame - I was in the April class, and everyone whom made it to sim - passed with out any problems, granted many of us have since left for greener pastures...

AQP takes a lot of work, studying flows, procedures, call outs, and reading section 9! They expect you to show up to each sim and expect the ONLY thing you to struggle with is nuances of the dash, nothing procedurally, and especially nothing instrument related.

Unfortunately, there is no consistency between instructors, some are very laid back, others it is their way (not the Piedmont way) or its wrong.

I really enjoyed my tenure at Piedmont, but love being at ExpressJet! The training is not AQP, and if you show up with a great attitude - you will make it through. They have a lot of experience in getting lower time guys successfully through training, and IOE, and on to the line. My class had everyone from 700 hour CFI's, to a furloughed NetJets Captain The line captains do not expect you to be an expert at the -145, and will all help you feel comfortable. Some people from my class needed a few extra sim slots, or FTD sessions, and that was fine!

The Dash, is a very capable aircraft, and is the epitome of 1980's tech. But, it is 1980's tech - remember how user-friendly and state of the art 'DOS' was, think of that, but in an aircraft...

It really is a shame, that Piedmont has to go to the bottom of the barrel to find pilots to fly an aircraft such as the dash. It is defiantly the hardest aircraft I have ever flown, and that list included King/Queen Air's, Turbo Commanders, and now -145's. Piedmont has/had so much potential to become a great airline, just so poorly managed by both Salisbury, and Tempe. Good luck to all the new hires!

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How often is this happening with new people coming on board and then taking off as soon as they can?
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:01 AM
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I really want PDT to make it but this place is sinking. 200's are all but a hindsight although didn't put much stock into it when they Said there was a good chance we'd get them. I wish I knew the whole story about the 200's. I understand about getting the apu's and new engines on them but fro
What I hear the argument is who is going to pay for the work. We have in house maintenance and the money we would spend on our own mechanics would be made up in not having to paint the aircraft since they're already done in the white. Regardless what they say, PHX is not behind us for acquiring more aircraft. If we can not get aircraft that are already operating for us airways then were not getting anything. If the dash 8 is as high demand as they make it out to be than offering market value will not get us more aircraft. I can almost guarantee u will see these 200's on the property of commutair
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:58 PM
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I can almost guarantee u will see these 200's on the property of commutair
Have heard some buzz from friends in Cleveland who work for Commutair that they were in the process of purchasing 200's somewhere. So you may be spot on PDTPILOT! I believe Commutair already operates 200's without APU's as well. So could be easy transition if they do decide on them.
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:09 PM
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Commutair training dept has great people who want you to succeed . Thats huge when training on the dash 8 .

.Commutairs 300's all have APU,s .The APU is really inuitive so its a non event .

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Old 11-16-2011, 02:15 PM
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Commutair flies 300 that have apu's .The 200s they have all came from Horizon with Apu' s removed even the fan ventilation units were removed .
The APU is really intuitive so the transition would be cake .If you have responsible ground personnel and A/c carts avaiable the apu is not really needed in the 200.
Exactly. Thats why commutair will probably get them rather than Piedmont. Plus I hear flying is increasing for them after the united/cal merger. Piedmont has limited options with just US Airways.
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by featheredprop View Post
Commutair training dept has great people who want you to succeed . Thats huge when training on the dash 8 .

.Commutairs 300's all have APU,s .The APU is really inuitive so its a non event .
I think more low timers need to read this post before deciding on commutair or piedmont. Sure commutair's pay is lower but atleast you know there is job security(newer equipment) and you will be treated with respect and dignity in training.
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:32 PM
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what is it with all the 5 on 2 off 4 on 2 off 3 on 2 off #*@$!!!!!

schedules have been utter and complete **** since september.
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Old 11-16-2011, 03:30 PM
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what is it with all the 5 on 2 off 4 on 2 off 3 on 2 off #*@$!!!!!

schedules have been utter and complete **** since september.
Must be going around...
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Old 11-16-2011, 03:32 PM
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So this written test all these guys failed last week? Was it the systems test? Did they get review/ground work prior or did they simply not study?
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