Piedmont TA = Jets for Jobs: Round 2

 

All of my PDT friends think you guys are eff'ing hilarious. 99% of the posters on here the last week aren't PDT pilots. You guys look like desperate fools. PDT pilots will do what's best for them yes or no.

 

AAG's original plan was to have the 3 wholly owneds each operate an individual fleet type. Envoy would operate a fleet of e170/175s, PSA would operate CRJs (700s/900s), and Piedmont would operate the dash (until it retired) and a fleet of 50 seat RJs (most likely e145s). Each operation would aim for a fleet size between 60-80 aircraft. During the negotiations and several failed attempts by AAG to bring concessions to Envoy this plan was changed multiple times. At one point the plan was to have Envoy as the single route to flow to AA and they would operate a fleet of around 170 Embraer a/c (e145s/175s), Piedmont would either be closed or merged with PSA or Envoy.

The current plan should PDT pass the LOA is to place 50 seat RJs at PDT shortly after the LOA is passed and to eventually deliver the 20 e175 firm orders and 20 options to PDT starting in 2016. PSA will get Envoy's CR7s and Envoy will shrink as their pilots flow to AA. The net result being 3 somewhat equally sized wholly owned regionals, which if staffing becomes more of an issue, can be easily merged and downsized further. All of this could change again if Envoy and AAG get back to the table, although it seems unlikely now . Keep in mind the TA was agreed to while AAG was still at the table with Envoy. This explains all of the conditional language in the PDT LOA.

This is just my theory anyway. Probably should have started out with that.

 

When is the vote?

 

You make your coworkers sound like they're a bunch of giggling schoolgirls. It's no wonder Jerry thought he could make such easy work of you...

 

50 seat RJs from where/who?

 

PSA. Then Envoy's 700s go to PSA as replacement aircraft.

 

Placing 50 seaters at PDT for only one year while waiting for 170's doesnt make any sense financially. Training costs, proving runs, manuals, etc all take money. I can see one or the other, but not both.

 

Original plan was...

Envoy 700 to PDT
PSA and PDT only CRJ operations
Envoy e145 and 175 ops.

Looks like might still the plan, but just reshuffleling the order...

"If EMB-175 aircraft (or other jet aircraft with 60-76 seats) are placed at Piedmont Airlines, then effective on the date the first EMB-175 (or other jet aircraft with 60-76 seats) enters revenue service, pay rates for the EMB-175 (or other jet aircraft with 60-76 seats) and Dash 8-100 and Dash 8-300 will be in accordance with the rates found in Appendix B of this Letter of Agreement except that: "


Read carefully "OR other JET AIRCRAFT with 60-76 seat"...they will cap you with CRJs7.

Looks to me that E-175 to PDT are less likely with those bases. Now the CR7 will work very well in your current bases.

 

Read carefully they could place one plane at PSA then not place any more. Look carefully they could interview all psa guys within a year, reject them and they'd all be on paycaps.... You envoy guys are funny. There's no tricks here.... AAG wants 12/4 caps and their regional guys to come over in turn.... Seems all these hypothetical situations Envoy guys continue to play are scare tactics to gain from others..... It's not that complicated as to what the deal is.... No tricks behind it.