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01-03-2016 | 04:22 PM

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Flyjustin

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Can someone shed some light on this 50% washout rate of upgrades....most regionals are upgrading at 1000-121 and for the most part with no issues

01-03-2016 | 05:31 PM

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Can someone shed some light on this 50% washout rate of upgrades....most regionals are upgrading at 1000-121 and for the most part with no issues

It's guys/gals with about a year of experience and it being there first 121 gig. It's a ton of work for a newbie. Plus the Dash 8 isn't a cake walk for a type rating. They just need more experience under the belt. The few I know and flown with will be fine with about another year of flying.

01-04-2016 | 07:22 AM

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most regionals are upgrading at 1000-121 and for the most part with no issues

I don't think that is true. Most regionals that have less than 1 year upgrades experience higher than normal washout rates. I know PSA had similar washout rates at one point.

01-04-2016 | 08:02 AM

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Can someone shed some light on this 50% washout rate of upgrades....most regionals are upgrading at 1000-121 and for the most part with no issues

Lets be honest, most (not all) guys are not ready for upgrade with just 1000 SIC time.

01-04-2016 | 08:08 AM

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I would say 30-35% is a more realistic figure. Not that it is great, but is representative of low time in type and maintaining a standard of performance. Some folks just aren't ready or can't change their mindset from that of a FO. They will work with people, but definitely don't give out free passes to the left seat. It was the hardest thing I have ever done as an aviator.

01-04-2016 | 08:29 AM

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Lets be honest, most (not all) guys are not ready for upgrade with just 1000 SIC time.

I was. And there were quite a few people I upgraded with who were. And quite a few people who upgraded before and after me who were.

01-04-2016 | 08:39 AM

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I was. And there were quite a few people I upgraded with who were. And quite a few people who upgraded before and after me who were.

Let's be honest, though. You are gods gift to aviation and fly for the greatest airline on earth, so it doesn't really apply to you.

01-04-2016 | 08:43 AM

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Let's be honest, though. You are gods gift to aviation and fly for the greatest airline on earth, so it doesn't really apply to you.

I'm not saying that. I'm refuting that anyone thinks that most people aren't ready to upgrade at 1000 SIC

01-04-2016 | 08:50 AM

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I'm not saying that. I'm refuting that anyone thinks that most people aren't ready to upgrade at 1000 SIC

The only people who don't think the 1000 hr types are ready to upgrade are the sorry sacks that spent a long majority of there life as sic. Those 3-4k sic types, but in reality Anyone can be a pilot. Were not that special. Anyone who believes they are better, has a case of the smartest guy with turrets syndrome.

01-04-2016 | 08:59 AM

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I'm not saying that. I'm refuting that anyone thinks that most people aren't ready to upgrade at 1000 SIC

I think it depends on the equipment flown. Had I been able to stay on a CRJ 1000 hours, perhaps I might agree. After a few hundred hrs I was bored on a jet. The Dash is a lot to be on top of, especially with the amount of new FOs we are seeing. To know the D is to love her, but you better be on top of your systems and procedures and be able to look past simply flying the airplane. She will kill you just as fast if you can't.