PDT News and Rumors
08-03-2016, 11:48 AM
#8941
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
None of the 145's you are getting were pulled out of the desert. There were never any 145's in the desert. 140's and 135's yes. 145's no. I don't know why you keep repeating this.
The 175 is as close to a 145 as a 145 is to a Dash. Probably more dissimilar. They are way more advanced and require much more support. I've seen special power carts show up, much beefier tugs, bigger catering trucks, more bag loaders, huge tow bars and electric tugs, etc. It requires much larger hangars than I believe you have. In fact I will have to take a look around to see what they have put in the hangar for it for special equipment. The cash outlay to launch this has been enormous. I was at Eagle for the transition from ATR's to the EMB. It wasn't nearly as capital intensive as this.
The 175 is as close to a 145 as a 145 is to a Dash. Probably more dissimilar. They are way more advanced and require much more support. I've seen special power carts show up, much beefier tugs, bigger catering trucks, more bag loaders, huge tow bars and electric tugs, etc. It requires much larger hangars than I believe you have. In fact I will have to take a look around to see what they have put in the hangar for it for special equipment. The cash outlay to launch this has been enormous. I was at Eagle for the transition from ATR's to the EMB. It wasn't nearly as capital intensive as this.
08-03-2016, 11:51 AM
#8942
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Wow. I heard some pretty wild stories about Piedmont and their over the top SJS...I didn't really believe it. Most of it came from Air Whisky and PSA guys so I just chalked it up to a little rivalry.
But reading through the past few pages of this thread...and wow. Unbelievable. You guys need to really slow your roll.
But reading through the past few pages of this thread...and wow. Unbelievable. You guys need to really slow your roll.
08-03-2016, 12:30 PM
#8943
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Originally Posted by billyho
Has nothing to do with SJS. It's being realistic! The 145's they are getting have a life span that isn't that long. Plus who wants 50 seat Jets? Plus Shortage of pilots = larger planes. They could just reduce Contract carrier flying to bring more flying in house. Is that a bad thing? It is if you're a contract pilot.
However the plan is for you guys to subsidize the 145 flying as envoy takes on 175s and the xjt and TSA one return in 2017 to envoy. Your notice your core infrastructure is getting zero investmentt, your moc Soc and crew sced sit in a small room together in the old Henson hanger in sby. Look at envoys. The second the fleet changes are stable in late 2017/2018 and your uupgrade returns to industry average and trust me everyone by then will have a 1-3 year upgrade industry wide, envoy and Piedmont will be combines.
Yes there's typing errors my autocorrect is malfunctionin.
08-03-2016, 12:39 PM
#8944
Happy at PDT
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Position: EMB-145 CA
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Originally Posted by lakehouse
I know your not going to hear it because your slightly dillusional.
However the plan is for you guys to subsidize the 145 flying as envoy takes on 175s and the xjt and TSA one return in 2017 to envoy. Your notice your core infrastructure is getting zero investmentt, your moc Soc and crew sced sit in a small room together in the old Henson hanger in sby. Look at envoys. The second the fleet changes are stable in late 2017/2018 and your uupgrade returns to industry average and trust me everyone by then will have a 1-3 year upgrade industry wide, envoy and Piedmont will be combines.
Yes there's typing errors my autocorrect is malfunctionin.
However the plan is for you guys to subsidize the 145 flying as envoy takes on 175s and the xjt and TSA one return in 2017 to envoy. Your notice your core infrastructure is getting zero investmentt, your moc Soc and crew sced sit in a small room together in the old Henson hanger in sby. Look at envoys. The second the fleet changes are stable in late 2017/2018 and your uupgrade returns to industry average and trust me everyone by then will have a 1-3 year upgrade industry wide, envoy and Piedmont will be combines.
Yes there's typing errors my autocorrect is malfunctionin.
08-03-2016, 12:45 PM
#8945
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This is a pretty ridiculous ****ing contest.
In my completely uneducated opinion, PDT will get 175s....after the merger with ENY in a couple years. Consolidation is going to happen in this pilot market; it's only going to get harder to find qualified guys from here, and neither of our employers are doing a bang up job right about now.
If they want to keep their cheap feed, consolidation is their best option IMO. The pie in the sky flow predictions just aren't enough right now, especially since both PDT and ENY are flowing 16 year + guys. Sure it's going to drop considerably, but it takes quite awhile for those results to show and new hires just ain't buying it right now.
In my completely uneducated opinion, PDT will get 175s....after the merger with ENY in a couple years. Consolidation is going to happen in this pilot market; it's only going to get harder to find qualified guys from here, and neither of our employers are doing a bang up job right about now.
If they want to keep their cheap feed, consolidation is their best option IMO. The pie in the sky flow predictions just aren't enough right now, especially since both PDT and ENY are flowing 16 year + guys. Sure it's going to drop considerably, but it takes quite awhile for those results to show and new hires just ain't buying it right now.
08-03-2016, 01:07 PM
#8946
Happy at PDT
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: EMB-145 CA
Posts: 983
Originally Posted by Jersdawg
This is a pretty ridiculous ****ing contest.
In my completely uneducated opinion, PDT will get 175s....after the merger with ENY in a couple years. Consolidation is going to happen in this pilot market; it's only going to get harder to find qualified guys from here, and neither of our employers are doing a bang up job right about now.
If they want to keep their cheap feed, consolidation is their best option IMO. The pie in the sky flow predictions just aren't enough right now, especially since both PDT and ENY are flowing 16 year + guys. Sure it's going to drop considerably, but it takes quite awhile for those results to show and new hires just ain't buying it right now.
In my completely uneducated opinion, PDT will get 175s....after the merger with ENY in a couple years. Consolidation is going to happen in this pilot market; it's only going to get harder to find qualified guys from here, and neither of our employers are doing a bang up job right about now.
If they want to keep their cheap feed, consolidation is their best option IMO. The pie in the sky flow predictions just aren't enough right now, especially since both PDT and ENY are flowing 16 year + guys. Sure it's going to drop considerably, but it takes quite awhile for those results to show and new hires just ain't buying it right now.
08-03-2016, 02:31 PM
#8947
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Originally Posted by lakehouse
I know your not going to hear it because your slightly dillusional.
However the plan is for you guys to subsidize the 145 flying as envoy takes on 175s and the xjt and TSA one return in 2017 to envoy. Your notice your core infrastructure is getting zero investmentt, your moc Soc and crew sced sit in a small room together in the old Henson hanger in sby. Look at envoys. The second the fleet changes are stable in late 2017/2018 and your uupgrade returns to industry average and trust me everyone by then will have a 1-3 year upgrade industry wide, envoy and Piedmont will be combines.
Yes there's typing errors my autocorrect is malfunctionin.
However the plan is for you guys to subsidize the 145 flying as envoy takes on 175s and the xjt and TSA one return in 2017 to envoy. Your notice your core infrastructure is getting zero investmentt, your moc Soc and crew sced sit in a small room together in the old Henson hanger in sby. Look at envoys. The second the fleet changes are stable in late 2017/2018 and your uupgrade returns to industry average and trust me everyone by then will have a 1-3 year upgrade industry wide, envoy and Piedmont will be combines.
Yes there's typing errors my autocorrect is malfunctionin.
Envoy, PSA and PDT will be doing just fine.
08-03-2016, 02:32 PM
#8948
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Originally Posted by billyho
Has nothing to do with SJS. It's being realistic! The 145's they are getting have a life span that isn't that long. Plus who wants 50 seat Jets? Plus Shortage of pilots = larger planes. They could just reduce Contract carrier flying to bring more flying in house. Is that a bad thing? It is if you're a contract pilot.
08-03-2016, 04:16 PM
#8949
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Anyone know how to get the pic restriction or whatever it is on our license removed if going from dash FO to 145 CA? It's basically what's known as a soe restriction that assures you actually fly the real airplane before becoming pic. If I'm not upgrading on the dash, there has to be a way to have that removed after flying it for sometime.
08-03-2016, 04:31 PM
#8950
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PDT won't merge with envoy any time soon- that'll take leverage away from AA management when it comes to future cost hold downs during contract negotiations and reduce recruitment because of reduced flow timelines.
If AWAC ever comes on the market for sale I could see a greater chance of AA purchasing it and merging it with PDT to reduce costs caused by 2 companies covering the same flying market/region, more than I could see PDT merging with Envoy.
If AWAC ever comes on the market for sale I could see a greater chance of AA purchasing it and merging it with PDT to reduce costs caused by 2 companies covering the same flying market/region, more than I could see PDT merging with Envoy.
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