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Old 10-09-2008 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerWings
Has anyone heard if they're going to dissolve the pool at some point and start over?

I was told they weren't, that most of the people in the pool had gone through some sort of jet training orientation as in the already spent money on us (although it wasn't that much of a loss)
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Old 10-09-2008 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
at the end of the day those 300 whiz kids will all be sitting ready reserve in some dingy crewroom right along side with the guys who got hired from flying freight or another airline...i felt bad for the furloughed ATA 757 captains in class with these guys from those bridge programs...

at the end of the day in this industry its your job to move people from point A to point B...no one cares about that crosswind landing or the icing or the storms you avoided...

whether or not you've got 300 hrs or 3000 hrs the day you hit the line none of that matters...you just do your job...i think your best bet is to just tell good jokes cus if you suck at flying at least you're not a total drag to have around...

Spoken like somebody hired at an airline without having an ATP first.
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Old 10-09-2008 | 01:22 PM
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I think all airline pilots should start out as instructors. It makes you a much better pilot. As far as needing "a couple thousand hours" to be an RJ driver, there is nothing about 2000 hours in a Cessna that gets you any more prepared to fly RJ's! Take a jet transition course!!
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Old 10-09-2008 | 01:23 PM
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I think all airline pilots should start out as instructors. It makes you a much better pilot. As far as needing "a couple thousand hours" to be an RJ driver, there is nothing about 2000 hours in a Cessna that gets you any more prepared to fly RJ's! Take a jet transition course!!
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Old 10-09-2008 | 02:50 PM
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you betcha...maybe i'm thick but that's the impression i get from those around me...
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Old 10-09-2008 | 02:58 PM
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all i'm getting at is that alot of people go to a regional with these delusions of grandeur thinking they're going to be cranking out 100 hrs a month and going all over creation on their overnights...when the reality is when they get their no matter who they are they're going to be sitting by the phone just wishing they could get deadheaded to the middle of nowhere to work a flight back...b/c of this i think a lot of people lose perspective.

i've seen guys who take pride in their flying...i personally like to give passengers a smooth ride and make sure nothing breaks and everyone lives....some guys take it personal when they have a bad landing or don't fly a good approach or what not...and other guys have literally told me they just don't care...

i don't think the regionals take care of their new pilots enough to make it worth getting an ATP anymore...with that a nice corporate gig or maybe goign to a fractional would seem like a better choice....for $21 an hour 900-1200 hours is what their going to get and what they should get...
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Old 10-09-2008 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by withthatsaid182
....for $21 an hour 900-1200 hours is what their going to get and what they should get...
LOL, try 250 Hrs.... and they freeze up with shock on their face, and become useless to the Capt, the first time a caution or warning goes off outisde the sim in the real plane.... probably because with 250 hours they have never had to deal with a real inflight problem.... that comes with time... spend enough in the air, and sooner or later you'll deal with something going wrong... even in a tiny Cessna.
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Old 10-09-2008 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
LOL, try 250 Hrs.... and they freeze up with shock on their face, and become useless to the Capt, the first time a caution or warning goes off outisde the sim in the real plane.... probably because with 250 hours they have never had to deal with a real inflight problem.... that comes with time... spend enough in the air, and sooner or later you'll deal with something going wrong... even in a tiny Cessna.
Just to play devil's advocate...I just got my commercial MEL and I have 270 hours and 42 multi. I have 30 hours of actual (60 total inst). I have had an engine failure, two alternator failures in a twin, and I have had the landing gear fail to retract (just the left main).

I have also shot an ILS down to 2000 rvr and vv100 solo.

Now, I am not saying that I am ready for the airlines or not, but I do know that I have more actual than alot of instructors. I think quality of training is just as important as quantity, and I tried to squeeze the most out of every hour.

Would I take an airline job now if I could get one? Heck yeah. Im 45 grand in already.

Just trying to provide another viewpoint.
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Old 10-09-2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by g-code

Now, I am not saying that I am ready for the airlines or not, but I do know that I have more actual than alot of instructors.
You might think your ready but your not. At the same experience level I thought I was ready too but looking back over the years I realized how little I really knew.
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Old 10-09-2008 | 09:27 PM
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IMHO, one doesn't belong in the cockpit of an airliner, conducting 121 ops without an ATP, or, at the very least, a single-pilot multieng 135 letter (very similar checkride). I suspect with less than 300hrs, there are plenty of SINGLE engine airplanes that would eat you for lunch. I don't mean to insult anyone, but ask yourself: Are you confident enough in your abilities that you could ably fly say, a PA-31 (or, for that matter, a turbo Centurion) on a dark and stormy night with several instrument approaches close to mins? I wouldn't expect you to answer in the affirmative to such a question - with 300hrs. But a person in the cockpit of an Airliner Should.
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