Up and Out Policies: Upgrade
10-27-2008 | 07:55 PM
#151
Che Guevara
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I'll guess I'll add one overriding issue. SkW is overstaffed. By a lot.
They have never had a furlough, and they don't want to start. So, there is an easy way to reduce staffing and not have to recall anybody, retrain them, and pay them at a much higher rate than a new hire.
So, recently, the company change the standard for captain recurrent training. One failure can get you unemployed.
They have never had a furlough, and they don't want to start. So, there is an easy way to reduce staffing and not have to recall anybody, retrain them, and pay them at a much higher rate than a new hire.
So, recently, the company change the standard for captain recurrent training. One failure can get you unemployed.
10-27-2008 | 08:15 PM
#153
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2005
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I'll guess I'll add one overriding issue. SkW is overstaffed. By a lot.
They have never had a furlough, and they don't want to start. So, there is an easy way to reduce staffing and not have to recall anybody, retrain them, and pay them at a much higher rate than a new hire.
So, recently, the company change the standard for captain recurrent training. One failure can get you unemployed.
They have never had a furlough, and they don't want to start. So, there is an easy way to reduce staffing and not have to recall anybody, retrain them, and pay them at a much higher rate than a new hire.
So, recently, the company change the standard for captain recurrent training. One failure can get you unemployed.
10-27-2008 | 08:16 PM
#154
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Pilot sleeping.
I'll guess I'll add one overriding issue. SkW is overstaffed. By a lot.
They have never had a furlough, and they don't want to start. So, there is an easy way to reduce staffing and not have to recall anybody, retrain them, and pay them at a much higher rate than a new hire.
So, recently, the company change the standard for captain recurrent training. One failure can get you unemployed.
They have never had a furlough, and they don't want to start. So, there is an easy way to reduce staffing and not have to recall anybody, retrain them, and pay them at a much higher rate than a new hire.
So, recently, the company change the standard for captain recurrent training. One failure can get you unemployed.
10-27-2008 | 08:41 PM
#155
Administrator
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From: C-172
Thanks to all for not letting this thread deteriorate. It came dangerously close the other day and almost ruined my lunch!
Anyway, this seems like a good point for me to give my "pitch" that if you were let go by your airline due to this up and out thing, you should apply for unemployment benefits. You are eligible for it. If you are denied, you should contact me right away so we can work on the appeal. It makes no difference that you may not live in Washington state - hearings are pretty much the same everywhere.
Anyway, this seems like a good point for me to give my "pitch" that if you were let go by your airline due to this up and out thing, you should apply for unemployment benefits. You are eligible for it. If you are denied, you should contact me right away so we can work on the appeal. It makes no difference that you may not live in Washington state - hearings are pretty much the same everywhere.
10-28-2008 | 12:25 PM
#158
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From: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
Too bad there isn't a legally binding document to enforce work rules, instead of a "policy handbook".
10-28-2008 | 12:28 PM
#159
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The other thing that was brought to my attention that I didn't initially realize is that there is no review for an upgrade failure termination. If I'm accused of sexual harassment, or whatever, I get the option of a review.
This has none.
Also, although the policy says you get terminated, it doesn't say anything about never being allowed to reapply. That just sounds like a "that's the way we've always done it" policy.
This has none.
Also, although the policy says you get terminated, it doesn't say anything about never being allowed to reapply. That just sounds like a "that's the way we've always done it" policy.
