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12-27-2008 | 09:00 AM

#161

sweptback

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I think he means after the displacements.

12-27-2008 | 09:41 AM

#162

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From: blueJet

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Originally Posted by Boomer

At Comair, the 8 year Captain pay on the CRJ700/900 is $42/hour. Lets see you guys beat that...

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Originally Posted by DublinFlyer

This IS a joke right? Forgive my poor sense of humor this morning.

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP

APC shows an 8 year Comair 70/90 CA @ $72/hr; FO is $41/hr.

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Originally Posted by sweptback

I think he means after the displacements.

Sweptback wins.

In addition to 3rd year guys being furloughed, guys that have been in the left seat for 4+ years are going back on FO pay.

Four years ago everyone wanted Comair's industry-leading payscales. Does anyone still want to follow Comair's lead these days?

12-27-2008 | 12:35 PM

#163

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Originally Posted by Boomer

Good friend of mine is getting furloughed there on Jan 15th I think it is. Just started his 3rd year there too... unimaginable that someone at a regional can get furloughed with 3 yrs seniority.

12-27-2008 | 02:15 PM

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An advisor friend of mine pointed out that IF fuel can settle between $30-$50 per barrel it should help the airlines out a lot. Make a long conversation short the CRJ-200 was built when fuel was $25-$35. Don't see why this plane cannot be a small money maker like it was before. If we (ALL DCI) are so lucky and fuel can just settle at around this range, Delta may go easy on the cuts or even add routes in 2009-2010. But.... I know that is a huge dream but hey who knows.
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It doesn't matter that fuels around $35/barrel if no one’s buying tickets. Yes the BEP decreases but you still need a solid yield. Our economy is in the crapper and people are taking vacations closer to home or not at all. If the decrease in fuel does cause DAL to change their projected cuts it won’t be by much. We need a complete rebound in our economy and consumer spending for DAL to make a 180.

12-27-2008 | 02:32 PM

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...and when the economy rebounds, so will the price of oil and other commodities...

12-27-2008 | 02:49 PM

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...and when the economy rebounds, so will the price of oil and other commodities...

True.....................but not to the levels we've seen in the last 12 months, at least we hope not.

12-27-2008 | 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by heywood

I guess this is what a meant......pilot pay is just a part of the puzzle.......But thanks for the info!!!

True, but look at just about ANY "regional" airline out there. The pilots make up the largest employee group. They also make up the largest chunk of the the payroll of non management employees. By default, pilots have the biggest target painted on them.

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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp

What are you all waiting for... next Christmas? Sounds to me like you're in no rush... you are getting the -900s we were promised after all.

Did I read that correctly? You were responding to a NW (DAL) pilot in this post. Would you REALLY be mad because a mainline size aircraft ACTUALLY was going to mainline and NOT the regional?

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Originally Posted by daniel0265

Good friend of mine is getting furloughed there on Jan 15th I think it is. Just started his 3rd year there too... unimaginable that someone at a regional can get furloughed with 3 yrs seniority.

I had just under 5 years when I took my first furlough. And I wasn't the only one.

12-27-2008 | 03:11 PM

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I sure as hell hope not either!!!

12-27-2008 | 03:15 PM

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12-28-2008 | 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dojetdriver

I did the math for a flight a couple months back and each passenger was paying $79 for Jet A and about $4 for my services. Maybe $18 for the entire crew, and the difference in labor and fuel is 60 bucks. A whole lot of rampies would have to touch their bags at $8/hour to equal the cost of fuel.

For what it's worth, each passenger needed to pay Delta a nickel to make up the difference between the non-competitive Comair FO they got and the underpaid Mesa FO they could have had.