Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi

I thought the rule was that 80% of ASA's flying had to be Delta Connection, not the other way around. Am I wrong?

Originally Posted by daniel0265

that's what they told us in training...

Originally Posted by afterburn81

That email is so stupid! Why the crap would someone volunteer to be furloughed if you could just get a COMA line and keep your flight benefits. I'm not even sure what the difference between the two is. So basically it's a please leave or we will boot you anyway. That's real shady if you ask me. Now I can see where some guys were frustrated that they don't just furlough. Who the heck is just going to volunteer to be furloughed when they had all that time to take a LOA or COMA and still could? A really poorly intended email if you ask me. C'mon dude!

Originally Posted by gtechpilot

From SEC filings:

Delta has also agreed that, starting in 2008, ASA is guaranteed to maintain its percentage of total Delta Connection flights that it has in 2007, so long as its bid for additional regional flying is competitive with other regional carriers.

AND

(i) ASA shall be scheduled to operate not less than [***] of all Delta Connection Program departures scheduled at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport (“Hartsfield”) and (ii) [***] ((i) and (ii) above, collectively, the “ATL Departure Percentages.”)


Not sure how the merger affects things but ASA and ASA only gets 80% of ATL DCI departures.

Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks

Its certainly not just you. This statement is right on the mark. It looks like JA was spot on with his 4 options, as the expensive ones alwayshave a target on their backs in this Regional Airline model. It is for that very reason that Mesa will survive, and Skywest, Pinnacle and Mesaba will flourish while ASA, Comair and ExpressJet have and will flounder. We are now feeling the punishment for being expensive (not all of that is to be blamed simply for polit wages). The other reason for ASA's future pain is that we are not players in the 900 market. This has been my gripe with management as the trend in future growth is in that market, as 50 slowly get replaced...........but again, it goes back to cheapest vs more expensive. So, ASA takes it's lumps now, unless we want to take steep cuts and undercut those that are getting the growth.

Not much ALPA can do about this. They got us what we asked for, despite we being told that we would stagnate or even shrink if we got it. We gambled and lost, and are getting the exact future JA predicted us. Nobody is going to give any money or work rules back to undercut Pinnacle and Mesaba, are they. So, we will watch our company brothers and sisters hit the street while we watch others grow.

I'm in no way advocating any type of pay cuts, but I'm just pointing out why we are here. The only way to get growth now would be to tell Delta we will fly 90's for 50 seat rates, and give back things like trip rig, min day,etc... Without that, we have a big target on all our backs.

The only thing I think ALPA needs to ensure is that we maintain our 80% ATL flying if we still meet the metrics.

Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo

You think that the extra 6 or 7 dollars that ASA pays 700 captains will make a difference? It wont. The truth is that Skywest is trying to find nickle and dime ways to cut cost at ASA when they know the true way to cut millions of dollars in cost is to merge the companies. OO and EV merged would create tens of millions a year in extra income for the company but yet inc. avoids it and is even going to furlough EV pilots because they refuse to merge. The savings of merging the two would be 5 times the ammount of savings skywest inc. would get from furloughing 300 pilots. This is all management bullSh.... and although I have some respect for BH and JA I will be furious if they decide to furlough for a few million dollars that could be saved in many other fashions....

Originally Posted by sweptback

I really think there's a handshake deal between Delta and SkyWest to sell ASA back to Delta in 2010 or whatever the rumor was.

Originally Posted by Banshee365

Maybe it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but. What's the deal with pilots that were hired before the contract was signed last Nov? Are they protected from this inevitable furlough approaching us?