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Old 07-21-2009 | 05:50 PM
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ATR's outta DFW by the end of the yr. More displacements to come.
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Old 07-21-2009 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
ATR's outta DFW by the end of the yr. More displacements to come.
If the ATR's are "out" then something will be brought "in". Travel is indeed down, but there will still be a need to run those military contracts (SPS,LAW,GRK).
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Old 07-21-2009 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
ATR's outta DFW by the end of the yr. More displacements to come.
Talked to CP, no truth whatsoever. He seems to think another furlough though. He admits it is just an inkling though. He said he has heard nothing to support it.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stillageek
If the ATR's are "out" then something will be brought "in". Travel is indeed down, but there will still be a need to run those military contracts (SPS,LAW,GRK).
RJ's. Thats the reason for the 15 DCE vacancies. More to follow.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheels up
This goes along with the ruling that the 7300 employed AA pilot floor trigger for the commuter clause of the scope contract is not valid because the arbitrator ruled that furloughed pilots count as "employed" pilots. This ruling means that AA could furlough every single AA pilot yet not trigger the minimum pilot floor for continuing the commuter exception to scope. Also, a stunningly biased finding from a supposed neutral arbitrator.
Stunning, yes, but the consequence of one of the parties ticking off the arbitrator by telling him "We demand an answer NOW!!!"

There is precedence for counting furloughed pilots as employees, but I thought the APA would win the case. Just goes to show that grandstanding can cause more problems than it solves and that patience is, indeed, a virtue.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by stillageek
If the ATR's are "out" then something will be brought "in". Travel is indeed down, but there will still be a need to run those military contracts (SPS,LAW,GRK).
Agreed. Since it is unlikely Eagle will make a large purchase of aircraft, even turboprops, until the APA contract is signed, I don't see any major changes at least a year or so. Anything is possible, but the status quo seems to be the best option for now.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AmericanEagleFO
Talked to CP, no truth whatsoever. He seems to think another furlough though. He admits it is just an inkling though. He said he has heard nothing to support it.

I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by captnem
I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.

If Eagle decides to park the ATR, maybe. No need to stress yourself out with the "I heard" crap.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by captnem
I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.
Why run this latest displacement bid then ?

If this were so, you'd think they'd wait to make it part of a larger reduction. As it stands now, they'd be paying people for training who might need re-training on new equipment. Of course, it still would be POSSIBLE as it would take a month or two before any of these would likely go into a long term event, but I'd be surprised ig they were THIS shortsighted.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by captnem
I heard the other day that the number may be as high as 230 projected additional furloughs...Who knows.
Originally Posted by meeko031
If Eagle decides to park the ATR, maybe. No need to stress yourself out with the "I heard" crap.
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Why run this latest displacement bid then ?

If this were so, you'd think they'd wait to make it part of a larger reduction. As it stands now, they'd be paying people for training who might need re-training on new equipment. Of course, it still would be POSSIBLE as it would take a month or two before any of these would likely go into a long term event, but I'd be surprised ig they were THIS shortsighted.
Captnem is a furloughed guy. My guess is he heard the rumor that was started on EL.
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