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07-24-2009 | 11:27 AM
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The 1500 included ALL costs associated with the flight... pro-rated rampers and gate agents included.
As a side note... and not to drift tooo far off topic... but,
I find it interesting to note that the typical ERJ top step Captain is getting between 90 and 105 per hour to fly a 35-50 seat jet.... that works out to at best over 2 dollars per seat.....
comparing that to mainline payscales.... I see that their Captains are getting around 1 dollar per seat.... so;
Who is it that is really bringing the industry down ?
As a side note... and not to drift tooo far off topic... but,
I find it interesting to note that the typical ERJ top step Captain is getting between 90 and 105 per hour to fly a 35-50 seat jet.... that works out to at best over 2 dollars per seat.....
comparing that to mainline payscales.... I see that their Captains are getting around 1 dollar per seat.... so;
Who is it that is really bringing the industry down ?
damn that just warms the soul but i still feel under paid
07-24-2009 | 11:29 AM
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I find it interesting to note that the typical ERJ top step Captain is getting between 90 and 105 per hour to fly a 35-50 seat jet.... that works out to at best over 2 dollars per seat.....
comparing that to mainline payscales.... I see that their Captains are getting around 1 dollar per seat.... so;
Who is it that is really bringing the industry down ?
comparing that to mainline payscales.... I see that their Captains are getting around 1 dollar per seat.... so;
Who is it that is really bringing the industry down ?
The longevity payscale is hurting everyone. If pilots could go from airline to airline without worrying about starting at base pay it would force the airlines to create a better environment to retain pilots.
07-24-2009 | 11:34 AM
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07-24-2009 | 12:12 PM
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It did not include the management, advertising, training dept or anything else... but it did include anybody who touched the plane, the passengers, or their tickets.... since they were DIRECTLY involved with the operation; proratred of course.
Unless they changed how they calculate and list it.......
07-24-2009 | 01:04 PM
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Dig a little deeper.... Direct operating costs included all of that stuff.
It did not include the management, advertising, training dept or anything else... but it did include anybody who touched the plane, the passengers, or their tickets.... since they were DIRECTLY involved with the operation; proratred of course.
Unless they changed how they calculate and list it.......
It did not include the management, advertising, training dept or anything else... but it did include anybody who touched the plane, the passengers, or their tickets.... since they were DIRECTLY involved with the operation; proratred of course.
Unless they changed how they calculate and list it.......
There are other costs involved even beyond those you admit aren't part of the equation to make this figure relatively useless like financing issues, so for all practical purposes refrencing this is pointless.
07-24-2009 | 02:38 PM
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all of the administration, administrative costs, training, advertising and stuff like that is not part of the figure. If it directly relates to the aircraft, it IS part of that number. At least it used to be. Ask a friendly station manager next time you have the chance.... that number covers a ton of things... just as it also DOESN'T cover a ton of other things... but if you have that number, and have your fee for departure rate, you know more than most.
07-24-2009 | 02:40 PM
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Hey, I hear Eagle is ditching their kitbags within the year... going to go to an aircraft library concept with an outside contractor responsible to update all onboard manuals.... cool idea, hope it works and catches on... I hate lugging mine around.
07-24-2009 | 02:53 PM
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financing is part of the direct costs of operating the flight.
all of the administration, administrative costs, training, advertising and stuff like that is not part of the figure. If it directly relates to the aircraft, it IS part of that number. At least it used to be. Ask a friendly station manager next time you have the chance.... that number covers a ton of things... just as it also DOESN'T cover a ton of other things... but if you have that number, and have your fee for departure rate, you know more than most.
all of the administration, administrative costs, training, advertising and stuff like that is not part of the figure. If it directly relates to the aircraft, it IS part of that number. At least it used to be. Ask a friendly station manager next time you have the chance.... that number covers a ton of things... just as it also DOESN'T cover a ton of other things... but if you have that number, and have your fee for departure rate, you know more than most.
At any rate you asserted that ALL (see original post) costs are involved with this figure on the release and that simply isn't true. That was what I said in my original post to your statement and it still stands.
07-24-2009 | 03:02 PM
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You're info is incorrect, but believe what you want. BTW, I've been led astray by more then one station manager before.
At any rate you asserted that ALL (see original post) costs are involved with this figure on the release and that simply isn't true. That was what I said in my original post to your statement and it still stands.
At any rate you asserted that ALL (see original post) costs are involved with this figure on the release and that simply isn't true. That was what I said in my original post to your statement and it still stands.
Perhaps "All costs associated with the flight" wasn't clear enough...
but, I thought I clarified it well after that....
07-24-2009 | 03:21 PM
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Where did you hear this? I hope you're right but I haven't heard anything about this. What would happen to trip books? I would see people using charts less.
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