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Old 05-04-2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptKrunch
I haves a collage digree and i has a flyeing job. why shoulndt' pilots be rekwired to hav a digree. it is a goode way to wead out peopl when a compani is entervewing peopl?
Funny thing is it takes to long for a college educated person to write something this way. Too much thinking ( or is it drinking) to get it wright...... just poking fun....
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Old 05-04-2009 | 08:47 PM
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So to help find the right person, I look for somebody who can perform the function of the position, has a PROVEN ability to learn, and a desire to improve them selves. As far as commerical flying, does having degree make you a better pilot? I would say defiantly, for the same above reasons, and I would require it if I were the Chief Pilot.

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To continue in this fray, aren't you contradicting yourself in your post, which I edited for brevity? I would like to say that Commercial pilots are always looking to improve themselves. Find me a pilot who has not PROVEN the ability to get where he/she is, through training, whether or not they have a degree. Not saying a degree is not a good thing, but do NOT discount the time and effort that good people have put in to get where they are today.
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Old 05-05-2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wizepilot
To continue in this fray, aren't you contradicting yourself in your post, which I edited for brevity? I would like to say that Commercial pilots are always looking to improve themselves. Find me a pilot who has not PROVEN the ability to get where he/she is, through training, whether or not they have a degree. Not saying a degree is not a good thing, but do NOT discount the time and effort that good people have put in to get where they are today.
So your argument is that just because they have a commercial license this proves they have the right stuff to be a professional pilot? I gotta disagree with this. This in no way shape or form, proves the individual is suited for the position. It means they passed the test. My point is that it takes more than a ticket to make a good pilot. And you have to have something else as a qualifier, a four year degree, I believe, is a great one. I also do not discount the training, I've been through it myself, I know. I'm just saying it takes more than that.

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Old 05-05-2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 577nitro
So your argument is that just because they have a commercial license this proves they have the right stuff to be a professional pilot? I gotta disagree with this. This in no way shape or form, proves the individual is suited for the position. It means they passed the test. My point is that it takes more than a ticket to make a good pilot. And you have to have something else as a qualifier, and a four year degree, I believe, is a great one. I also do not discount the training, I've been through it myself, I know. I'm just saying it takes more than that.
I know some real fools, stoners, potheads, guys in their late 30's that are still freeloading off (and living with) their parents and living like they are still 22 that have 4 year degrees from big time universities. It takes much more than a degree to make it... You CAN have what it takes and not have a degree tho. You could always work on that on the overnights from a laptop, no?

Flight training requires more of a commitment than getting some of these degrees out there tho... I still believe that.
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Old 05-05-2009 | 10:57 AM
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I know some real fools, stoners, potheads, guys in their late 30's that are still freeloading off (and living with) their parents and living like they are still 22 that have 4 year degrees from big time universities.
Are these guys working as professional pilots? I know just as many people, if not more, that did not go to college that are real fools, stoners, and potheads. So what's your point?
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Old 05-05-2009 | 11:08 AM
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I think what some folks are not grasping is that this is not a college degree vs. flight training discussion. This is a college degree and flight training vs. flight training only discussion.

I will once again pose the most obvious of questions. Why would you not want to go to college? I've never met a single person who regretted going to college. But I'm sure someone on this forum, who never went to college, will respond to this post by saying "I regret going to college".
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Old 05-05-2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
Are these guys working as professional pilots? I know just as many people, if not more, that did not go to college that are real fools, stoners, and potheads. So what's your point?
Point is people who aren't "dedicated" can easily obtain college degrees... And people who ARE dedicated may or may not have one... That's all.
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Old 05-05-2009 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan64456
Point is people who aren't "dedicated" can easily obtain college degrees... And people who ARE dedicated may or may not have one... That's all.
So are you saying that people who obtain pilot certificates are dedicated?
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Old 05-05-2009 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
So are you saying that people who obtain pilot certificates are dedicated?
Not in my place to say, but I do know it takes more to pass a checkride than just "showing up for class".
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Old 05-05-2009 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan64456
Not in my place to say, but I do know it takes more to pass a checkride than just "showing up for class".
Well then by your definition your a step above and beyond the typical college graduate. Now try comparing yourself to those who have graduated from college and passed the same checkrides that you place on a pedestal.

How could you possibly know what it takes to complete an undergraduate degree, if you don't have one. You make it sound like most of us paid our tuition, sat around for four years drinking beer, and collected a diploma at the end.

Once again, it's this attitude that post secondary formal education is not important that limits you and those that think like you. I can think of several occupations that don't require a degree in order to obtain the upper echelons, but this is not one of them.

You may disagree with me on these points, and that's fine. You may think college is unimportant, and that's fine. You may think college is a waste of time or money, and that's fine. But please refrain from making statements about what it takes to do something without ever having done it. Stop denigrating what many people consider the most important thing they have ever done, which is going to college. I would just prefer you give us credit for accomplishing the same feats as you. Then get out of my way as I climb to the top, both professionally and intellectually. When you get your degree, then you can talk to me about "what it takes". Till then, good luck. Your going to need it.
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