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Old 05-16-2009 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
With wheel's falling off, landing gear buckling all over the world, and this incident I wouldn't be surprised if the Q400 was toast.
Looks like the ATR-600 sales might pick up................
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Old 05-16-2009 | 08:18 PM
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1. This is Airline Pilot Central, Not Air Force Pilot Central. (although he didn't post it here someone decided he is credible. But let's be realistic he is a politician so we can throw credibility out the window.)

2. Is he or has he ever been a 121 pilot?

3. Why didn't he send a similar letter to the FAA about crew rest requirements?

4. Why doesn't he try to change 121 mins? that appears to be the gist of his letter.

5. Credit should NEVER be given to a reservist serving public office. From what a previous post stated this is what I am inferring, that he is a reservist. They have absolutely no business whatsoever in public office. I have no doubt George C. Marshall is rolling in his grave over the fact a reservist is serving in public office.

This is just some politician trying to be re-elected.
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Old 05-16-2009 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Knight
1. This is Airline Pilot Central, Not Air Force Pilot Central. (although he didn't post it here someone decided he is credible. But let's be realistic he is a politician so we can throw credibility out the window.)

2. Is he or has he ever been a 121 pilot?

3. Why didn't he send a similar letter to the FAA about crew rest requirements?

4. Why doesn't he try to change 121 mins? that appears to be the gist of his letter.

5. Credit should NEVER be given to a reservist serving public office. From what a previous post stated this is what I am inferring, that he is a reservist. They have absolutely no business whatsoever in public office. I have no doubt George C. Marshall is rolling in his grave over the fact a reservist is serving in public office.

This is just some politician trying to be re-elected.
At least he is putting on a front that he cares... its more than anyone else is doing...
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Old 05-17-2009 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
With wheel's falling off, landing gear buckling all over the world, and this incident I wouldn't be surprised if the Q400 was toast.

Agree. I was wondering the same thing. It will be interesting to see the fate of this airframe.
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Old 05-17-2009 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Knight
1. This is Airline Pilot Central, Not Air Force Pilot Central. (although he didn't post it here someone decided he is credible. But let's be realistic he is a politician so we can throw credibility out the window.)

2. Is he or has he ever been a 121 pilot?

3. Why didn't he send a similar letter to the FAA about crew rest requirements?

4. Why doesn't he try to change 121 mins? that appears to be the gist of his letter.

5. Credit should NEVER be given to a reservist serving public office. From what a previous post stated this is what I am inferring, that he is a reservist. They have absolutely no business whatsoever in public office. I have no doubt George C. Marshall is rolling in his grave over the fact a reservist is serving in public office.

This is just some politician trying to be re-elected.
He just got elected, so he probably doesnt need to be re-elected just yet FYI. Again, check facts before posting broad sweeping statements. The media does the same thing and we trash them for it, you reciprocated. I dont see why you are soo dissapointed that for once, a politician that knows aviation well is speaking on it. Somebody has to stand up for us to help improve on this industry. Who is helping us?

Certainly not ALPA. alpa is a joke and thats what people dont realize. ALPA has existed the entire time this industry has taken a nose dive. Why has it taken a nosedive. I know there is a million reasons, etc, etc, etc. But why hasnt alpa helped improve pay, QOL, etc? They have not. Just because maybe they helped you get 31 an hour instead of 30, does that matter? The pay is horrible either way. ALPA sits on the sidelines and watches, and there biggest concern is membership drives, who is coming, and who is going. Their actual 'action' phase is minimal. I feel sorry for anybody that puts their confidence in such a group. I am 100% for unionization, however, I wouldnt mind seeing one that actually produces results and doesnt exhaust all of their funds on recruiting new members instead of actually doing something effective.

Airways pilots were very intelligible in thier decision to move on with a new organizer.
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Old 05-17-2009 | 08:29 AM
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I definately think the congressman's questions are uneducated and should be wondering more as to how these problems can be resolved. Such as duty time, rest period, and training. I think he needs to start asking the FAA instead of Colgan.
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Old 05-17-2009 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Convairator
He just got elected, so he probably doesnt need to be re-elected just yet FYI. Again, check facts before posting broad sweeping statements. The media does the same thing and we trash them for it, you reciprocated. I dont see why you are soo dissapointed that for once, a politician that knows aviation well is speaking on it. Somebody has to stand up for us to help improve on this industry. Who is helping us?

Certainly not ALPA. alpa is a joke and thats what people dont realize. ALPA has existed the entire time this industry has taken a nose dive. Why has it taken a nosedive. I know there is a million reasons, etc, etc, etc. But why hasnt alpa helped improve pay, QOL, etc? They have not. Just because maybe they helped you get 31 an hour instead of 30, does that matter? The pay is horrible either way. ALPA sits on the sidelines and watches, and there biggest concern is membership drives, who is coming, and who is going. Their actual 'action' phase is minimal. I feel sorry for anybody that puts their confidence in such a group. I am 100% for unionization, however, I wouldnt mind seeing one that actually produces results and doesnt exhaust all of their funds on recruiting new members instead of actually doing something effective.

Airways pilots were very intelligible in thier decision to move on with a new organizer.
I agree with you! All I hear is people b!*@$ing about pay and QOL and anything else they can complain about but not doing anything about it. Here comes someone that is trying to help (whether he actually is or not) and everyone shoots him down and criticizes the #&$* out of him. You wrote "Somebody has to stand up for us to help improve on this industry. Who is helping us? " Well with attitudes like the people on this thread have no one will want to help and I don't blame them.

If you don't like what the congressman wrote, write him a letter explaining your point of view and what you think he can do to help the industry not just one airline. If you can't do that then stop criticizing the man on APC. I'm sure he doesn't read posts on here (I hope not at least).
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Old 05-17-2009 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by imbroke
I agree with you! All I hear is people b!*@$ing about pay and QOL and anything else they can complain about but not doing anything about it. Here comes someone that is trying to help (whether he actually is or not) and everyone shoots him down and criticizes the #&$* out of him. You wrote "Somebody has to stand up for us to help improve on this industry. Who is helping us? " Well with attitudes like the people on this thread have no one will want to help and I don't blame them.

If you don't like what the congressman wrote, write him a letter explaining your point of view and what you think he can do to help the industry not just one airline. If you can't do that then stop criticizing the man on APC. I'm sure he doesn't read posts on here (I hope not at least).
I don't think pople are as mad about him for trying to help, more than they are mad at him for criticizing an industry and it's professionals by calling their pilots "inexperienced".

Fact of the matter is, American's would be VERY concerned if they found out how little we ALL sleep.

The problems will always lie with the majors. They are looking for the cheapest regional, and the cheapest regional will always be the ones who cut corners in crew rest, pay, moral and Mx. Sorry the MAXIMUM domestic duty day should only be 8 hours. It's just too tiring sitting in line at LGA, holding, shooting approaches to mins and then doing it 4 more times.
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Old 05-17-2009 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
I don't think pople are as mad about him for trying to help, more than they are mad at him for criticizing an industry and it's professionals by calling their pilots "inexperienced".

Fact of the matter is, American's would be VERY concerned if they found out how little we ALL sleep.

The problems will always lie with the majors. They are looking for the cheapest regional, and the cheapest regional will always be the ones who cut corners in crew rest, pay, moral and Mx. Sorry the MAXIMUM domestic duty day should only be 8 hours. It's just too tiring sitting in line at LGA, holding, shooting approaches to mins and then doing it 4 more times.
I agree totally...... let him know how you feel, not me. He has a little more pull than I do.

Conressman John Boccieri
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Old 05-17-2009 | 09:17 AM
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Another example of a clueless politician pandering votes and attention from the constituency. Where has this self serving individual been hibernating? What was the last airline he flew with. I’m sure the congressman was the ace of the base of his squadron. However never living the life of a regional pilot does not give him the right to pound his fist on the desk and make demands for answers.

Mr. Boccieri asks: “Do Colgan Air's minimum flight requirements for air crew exceed FAA guidelines, or simply meet them? Do you still find those regulations to be sufficient?”

Tell us Mr. Boccieri, please cite the specific FAR, Advisory Circular, or even the 8410, and any other guideline(s) that specifies minimum flight requirements.

Mr. Boccieri asserts, “Even the most basic pilot training – from Cessnas to bombers – includes basic training to correct a stall. It is becoming clear that the 50 deaths that occurred that night in February were not only tragic, but likely avoidable.”

Enlighten us Mr. Boccieri, provide this forum with a training syllabus outlining training for the recovering from full stalls.

Yes Mr. Boccieri, go on and continue to be the typical stereotypical lazy politician that I continue to identify with, and take incomplete and inaccurate information and spin it something that will benefit your next campaign.

Tell me Mr. Boccieri even Colgan humors you by responding to your letter, what is your game plan? What is your game plan if Colgan does not respond to your letter.


By the way Mr. Boccieri where were you when pay and benefits were being cut at the major carriers? What recommendations, or madates have you proposed after Sully's testimony before congress?
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