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07-07-2009 | 02:27 PM
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... few are aware of two important facts about the post-World War II era, both of which are brilliantly delineated in a new book, “Unequal Democracy,” by Larry M. Bartels, a professor of political science at Princeton. I call the first fact the Great Partisan Growth Divide. Simply put, the United States economy has grown faster, on average, under Democratic presidents than under Republicans...
I'm shocked!
07-07-2009 | 02:39 PM
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I actually erased that, because it was a bit too political. But, the entire article is in the link. No reason to be shocked. Just showing that there is a difference of opinion on what economic policies are more favorable towards economic growth, EVEN IN THE ACADEMIC COMMUNITY! Not everyone agrees that unionization is bad, outsourcing is good, etc., etc., etc., even in the academic community, and from people who are authorities on the subjects.
07-07-2009 | 02:42 PM
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Fair enough. Yes, it's just as slippery a slope. But.....I don't appreciate the backanded insult. My opinions are rooted in more than poitics. You're not the last bastion of academia, and economic science is populated by many a varying opinion. I stand by my opinions based not solely on a visceraly political reaction, but also on an understanding, as elementary as it may be, of basic economics. Lastly, I certainly don't see eye to eye with you on this, but I do appreciate you clarifying your position.
07-07-2009 | 02:43 PM
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I actually erased that, because it was a bit too political. But, the entire article is in the link. No reason to be shocked. Just showing that there is a difference of opinion on what economic policies are more favorable towards economic growth, EVEN IN THE ACADEMIC COMMUNITY!
07-07-2009 | 02:47 PM
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I often listen to the Phil Valentine radio show and I agree with him 95% of the time (he's very conservative).
However, I disagree with his disdain for the unions because I feel he's a little hypocritical on that subject. For example he often says that when he negotiated his current salary and benefits at the radio station he used an experienced negotiator who's dealt with similar negotiations before... Well, how is that different from us, pilots, getting together so we can use expert negotiators to our advantage?
However, I disagree with his disdain for the unions because I feel he's a little hypocritical on that subject. For example he often says that when he negotiated his current salary and benefits at the radio station he used an experienced negotiator who's dealt with similar negotiations before... Well, how is that different from us, pilots, getting together so we can use expert negotiators to our advantage?
07-07-2009 | 02:49 PM
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I erased the "copy/paste" from the article, because it was a little out of context with the rest of the article; plus, it was obviously way too political to be posting on this forum. The professor is not conservative. He's a liberal. Way more so than I am. The only point of my original post, is to show that there is a difference of opinion, even in the academic community. I see a lot of people who say they are using a "basic understanding of economics" to basically post right-wing conservative opinion on economic theory. I'm just showing that not everyone agrees with them; even those who are authorities in the subject area.
07-07-2009 | 03:04 PM
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I erased the "copy/paste" from the article, because it was a little out of context with the rest of the article; plus, it was obviously way too political to be posting on this forum. The professor is not conservative. He's a liberal. Way more so than I am. The only point of my original post, is to show that there is a difference of opinion, even in the academic community. I see a lot of people who say they are using a "basic understanding of economics" to basically post right-wing conservative opinion on economic theory. I'm just showing that not everyone agrees with them; even those who are authorities in the subject area.
You're quoting a liberal professor while trying to show that there's disagreement in the academic community?
IF he was a liberal trying to show the democrats are wrong I'd understand your point, however since our universities are a liberal bastion it's pointless to argue that there's disagreement in their ranks because pretty much all of them will always claim that democrats are better in this and better in that...
07-07-2009 | 03:08 PM
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Well, my union is representing my interests when dealing with my employer... I want them to fight for my interests BUT I do not want them to favor one party over the other in the political process... They should be attempt to stay fairly neutral.
I don't see any contradiction in being a conservative and pro-IPA union at the same time... If my union was openly supporting the democratic party I'd obviously have a big problem with it... I've lived the socialist dream and know it's an utopian dream...
I don't see any contradiction in being a conservative and pro-IPA union at the same time... If my union was openly supporting the democratic party I'd obviously have a big problem with it... I've lived the socialist dream and know it's an utopian dream...
07-07-2009 | 03:14 PM
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I see now what you're trying to explain even though I disagree with your premise...
You're quoting a liberal professor while trying to show that there's disagreement in the academic community?
IF he was a liberal trying to show the democrats are wrong I'd understand your point, however since our universities are a liberal bastion it's pointless to argue that there's disagreement in their ranks because pretty much all of them will always claim that democrats are better in this and better in that...
You're quoting a liberal professor while trying to show that there's disagreement in the academic community?
IF he was a liberal trying to show the democrats are wrong I'd understand your point, however since our universities are a liberal bastion it's pointless to argue that there's disagreement in their ranks because pretty much all of them will always claim that democrats are better in this and better in that...
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