Edwin you 'll need to blame oil for that one. That is what put Midwest into this spiral to begin with. They had a lot of layoffs even before we were even on the scene. How about the Skyway guys when Skywest moved in, I don't remember a big huff about that.

Whoops, you're right But to be honest I don't find it all that funny. I did it mostly for Edwins' benefit since he felt the need to call the Duck out for as the Duck replied, something he was not guilty of. I think its a damn shame that anyone of us at Republic could end up sitting left seat to such a supreme being that based on what I read here the Midwest pilot must be. Do they glow?

This seems to be a Republic thing because our union tried the same thing when WE furloughed and they denied it. Its cheaper to work few harder. Sorry, but that's business, not that I like it. I bid mid sked every month in a show of support to our furloughed brothers.

Nope it just sounded flashier that and you say I have the controls from either seat. Steering's only on the left.

Look it sucks, all the way around. I will most likely be getting bumped down. I've slipped over 20 spots in base since the industry took a turn. Do I like the fact that our company has stepped in and taken over a once respected airline that fought and lost to be on their own. No I don't but that's the way its working out. I didn't get a call on the Bat phone from Bryan one night a year ago asking what I thought of all this. It was a surprise to the entire pilot group, they stuffed our union with this crap on a press release. The company is currently showing no respect to the union or the pilot group with regards to planning. Now throw in the fact that the rest of the industries pilots think we are any worse then any of them for things they are just as guilty of and you start becoming a bit defensive. Instead of sharing the things that made Midwest so great, you have automatically assumed we can't do it. I've looked the seats are just as wide, they recline just as much as Midwest coach does. As long as people don't carry on 3 bags each or some inconsiderate "I'm better then you" idiot doesn't lay his suit coat flat across an empty bin there should be adequate carry on space. Regardless of what you think our pilots fly airplanes just as well as yours and theirs do. Our company does not skimp on maintenance and safety. We don't tool around all day at .68 unless we are very early and don't need to spend the money on fuel. So what it is, what makes it impossible for Republic to maintain the brand standard? Lighten up and start offering something constructive. Otherwise deal with it, its already happened.

 

Ill preface this by saying, I dont know all the bits and pieces of the Midwest/ RAH deal, but I have a question.
Did RAH just buy out a company that was about to go under?
Was this a simple takeover?
If either are what happened then "How the heck" can Midwest pilots all of a sudden just throw all the blame for this on the RAH pilots, like they stole someones job. If your company was going under, it seems rediculous to think that all the RAH pilots had a secret meeting asking BB to buy Midwest so they can steal your flying and screw you over.

I admit it seems the Midwest guys got hosed, but you cant salvage anything if all your anger is directed at the wrong people, its wasted energy that will acomplish nothing...

 

You may have a family feed but you are feeding it at the expense of someone else. You are going to see"Whinning" if this senoirity issue is not settled and the Midwest pilots file a grievence in which BB cannot win. When he bought Midwest, he bought the contract. It is valid until the merger is approved by the pilots of Midwest. If you fly an airplane that my fellow pilots should be flying, you are a SCAB. Any other questions?

 

Midwest was not in Chapter 11. Should it had been? Hell yes. If it had been, we would still have our airplanes and Republic would not be flying our routes. It sold for 450 mill in Jan of 08. NWA raped it of its cash to fund its merger with Delta. TH refused to take it to CHP 11 in order to save his golden parachute. Are we angry? You bet. Wouldn't you be when pilots willing to do your job for less than half jump at the chance to do it? That's what we face.

 

Ok so now that I've been on APC for a year let me see if I finally have this straight...disclaimer the below info ive posted is what Ive heard other people on apc speak as the truth....

IF a pilot that works(worked) at another outfit doesnt like you or somthing your company does than you are a scab(psuedo-scab, blah blah blah)

So its basically no matter who you work for, if your company merges with another and someone from the other pilot group gets screwed, then by default you are a scab ( this is absolute bunk ), so by my calculations we will all be scabs by 2020..yee hah

Ok, Im simply proving a point, all you people scream about bettering the industry. The mudslinging and namecalling will never fix anything.

Everyday some post on here reminds me of the Hatfields and Mccoys..oops I probably dated myself

 

Ok I agree you guys got screwed but by managment, I highly doubt the RAH pilots joined a conspiricy to steal your job...just refocuse your angry energy at the right group of enemys thats all I'm saying

 

By this last paragraph it is obvious that you can't provide the service Midwest is know for. How much time did Republic spend on customer service in your new hire training? During your interview for RAH, were you tested for traits that would be a good fit for a company that is customer focused? Since I spent a brief period at CHQ I know the answer is 0 and not a single customer care related question. At Midwest the interview was an all day event with 75% of it testing your personality for traits that are typical of people with strong customer service skills. You see when you are not a bottom feeding regional you can focus on hiring quality people who happen to be good pilots vs. finding anyone with a pilot certificate.

 

and this is relevant to the thread how? Because pilots locked behind a reinforced cockpit door have sooo much face-to-face interaction? a RAh guy can stand at the door and say "hello" just as good as any other YX guy. throwing bags is a union labor violation and frowned on from an OJI standpoint. PAX PAs aren't terribly difficult to read from a script. Wearing a uniform has been a challenge industry-wide lately so that can't be a factor..... so what is it exactly? Because GRS didn't have a day long customer service section they somehow can't fly a plane? Until there is a strike somewhere, SCAB is not a correct term.

 

What's inaccurate with that statement it is the truth? I don't think there's anything happy about it just truth.

 

Ahh so you've worked at CHQ. Guess you can't throw the first stone