It seems strange to me that this bill would have the three year time period, when other safety issues such as the tail wheel endorsement all had the grandfather clause. Three years should be sufficient for active crew members, but leaves those of us on furlough without many options.

 

The fact that it has taken this long to hopefully correct this issue is a sad fact. The reality is, people without the ATP shouldn't have been in part 121 airlines in the first place IMHO. If this proves a hardship for some folks, I'm sorry, but you'll all just have to do it the way the majority of us did. This sense of entitlement is beyond annoying.

 

And I don't think that the legislative or executive is going to tell him to require it, because that's going to be his recommendation.

 

Ex post facto does not apply to your employment


There is no precedent for waivers to pilot cert requirements...I doubt it would happen.

The FAA has never allowed private pilots to work as flight instructors, not have they allowed commercial pilots to captain airliners. Once the law is passed, done deal...especially since it is an actual law, not FAA admin law (if the FAA created a reg, it can change it later...but this is congress).

 

They provided a grandfather for active pilots (and airlines) convenience.

They don't care about furloughs. But you should be able to get 1500 hours in three years...even if you stay furloughed that long.

 

How many good jobs take less experience to get today than they did 60 years ago? Not to many that I can think of except ours; because of one thing... the airlines have figured out how to use the minimums of the commercial license to get under qualified pilots to work for poverty wages and have it be legal by FAA rules. I think that this is the first step in bringing back the profession to a level that we want it be at in the future.

The next step is to require a 4 year degree for all future ATPs. The high school diploma thing was written decades ago when most people didn't finish high school. This rule needs to be brought into this century where the traveling public expects that pilots to have degrees. Lets face it, if you are without a college degree 80K a year is a good salary and that is where the majors salaries have been heading. Part of the reason is the job shift from 120K a year FOs with 4 year degrees to 18-21 year olds willing to work for 24K a year for extended periods of time now that hiring has slowed down. After spending 100-150K on a flight education the young pilot feels stuck without any recourse other than to stick with flying. A good 4 year degree would help this as well. Yes most airline pilots have degrees, but we will always be forced to compete against the lowest denominator the way it is set up my managements right now.

We need to implement requirements that help us control the output of people into this profession in order to maintain the correct supply and demand curve to keep the reward worth the price of education for all our sakes. We could implement this stuff in a way that would keep current pilots in their jobs with a future date for implementation like you see in many FARs that state anyone holding a certificate issued after such and such a date, etc.

Just my opinion of course, but we need to take this profession back from the bean counters and this is a great opportunity to start that.

 

I got an SIC type added to my ticket by filling out an 8710. The type ride was based on my previous PC which occurred before we even knew FO's were going to need a type. Leads me to believe that a standard PC can get the job done for a type and/or ATP with little or no additional maneuvers.

 

I believe a full type would require a circling approach and a no-flap landing, where the SIC type does not.

Neither are particularly difficult and a proficient pilot shouldn't have any problem successfully completing both maneuvers with minimal practice.

 

I think you're right.

 

If you're talking a "FULL" type, I guess that would be correct.

But look at how many certificates state under limitations "CIRC. APCH.-VMC ONLY" as it refers to the type rating.

So does that mean I don't have a "full type", but a guy with 300 hours that bought his type rating at a flight school that offered it and had to demonstrate a circle is more qualified?