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Old 09-02-2009 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
as a RAH pilot I hope that we get you guys intergrated quickly, believe me there are alot of us here that are concerned that if we dont get you guys on the list that our management will grow Lynx into a 40-60 aircraft operation and whipsaw the lynx and RW/RP/S5 operations against eachother
Let me get this straight. We have a Republic pilot worried about being "whipsawed". Pot, meet Kettle. I seriously wonder where BB found some of you people. You work for nothing, wipe out other pilot groups, put tons of people on the street and you think nothing of it. Incredible.
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And the Internet trolls have arrived. Thread now useless. It was a good try though.
Old 09-02-2009 | 11:58 AM
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And the Internet trolls have arrived. Thread now useless. It was a good try though.

Only shining a light on the actions of IBT747 leadership.
Old 09-02-2009 | 12:17 PM
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As posted on the ALPA board:
From the Republic Pilots CBA

ARTICLE 1

RECOGNITION AND SCOPE ARTICLE

H. Successorship and Mergers

5. The following additional requirements shall be applicable in the event of a merger, purchase or acquisition involving the Company, regardless of the identity of the surviving carrier or whether formerly separate operations are to be integrated.

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b. Subject to applicable securities and other laws and regulations, the Company will review with the union the details of any material agreements relating to Successorship transactions in a timely manner, provided that no financial or other confidential business information need be disclosed unless suitable arrangements are made for protecting the confidentiality and use of such information.

c. The operations of the Company and those of the other air carrier shall be kept separate unless and until the processes described in paragraph b above is completed and the seniority lists of the two pilot groups are integrated in accordance with Sections 3 and 13 of the Allegheny-Mohawk Labor Protective Provisions are completed. During such time of separate operations, neither aircraft nor pilots shall be interchanged without the Union’s written consent.


Does anyone else see that BB is violating c. above. I fail to see that this got by 2000 pilots without a grievance filed. Doesn't surprise me though that this may just be their dirty little secret. Wouldn't want to grieve something that benefits them. Unless the teamsters gave consent which wouldn't surprise me either. So are any of the RAH pilots on here going to file a grievance about this or are you just going to continue to play dumb.
Old 09-02-2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80
Only shining a light on the actions of IBT747 leadership.
Exactly. Not the RAH group as a whole.

Do you blame all ALPA pilots for the shortcomings of National?
Old 09-02-2009 | 01:38 PM
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I have heard that once the Frontier deal is completed there is going to be some sort of 5 way sexcapade (integration) between all of the groups with probably a few fences. Is this not the case? You all need to get on the same sheet of music find out what the companies plans are and get to work so you don't get caught with your pants any more down than they already are.
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Originally Posted by likeitis

c. The operations of the Company and those of the other air carrier shall be kept separate unless and until the processes described in paragraph b above is completed and the seniority lists of the two pilot groups are integrated in accordance with Sections 3 and 13 of the Allegheny-Mohawk Labor Protective Provisions are completed. During such time of separate operations, neither aircraft nor pilots shall be interchanged without the Union’s written consent.

Confused. It states that things have to be kept separate until the seniority lists are merged. This has not happened yet, nor have pilots nor aircraft been interchanged. Your side remarks are cute, but make no sense. What could we grieve at this point? That BB bought some 190's, threw them on our certificate and are flying them with current RAH pilots?
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Originally Posted by powrful1
I have heard that once the Frontier deal is completed there is going to be some sort of 5 way sexcapade (integration) between all of the groups with probably a few fences. Is this not the case? You all need to get on the same sheet of music find out what the companies plans are and get to work so you don't get caught with your pants any more down than they already are.
Pretty much is the case between RAH, F9, YX, Lynx and Mokulele. Not an easy thing to do and definitely not going to happen over night. The unions are already in talks, and as expected, each union is miles apart on what they think should happen to their group.
Old 09-02-2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
Confused. It states that things have to be kept separate until the seniority lists are merged. This has not happened yet, nor have pilots nor aircraft been interchanged. Your side remarks are cute, but make no sense. What could we grieve at this point? That BB bought some 190's, threw them on our certificate and are flying them with current RAH pilots?
You're kidding right? What do you think aircraft painted in Midwest colors with Midwest on the side of them are doing in MKE? There has been an interchange of equipment and pilots only it's been one sided. Won't last long though if we have our way in the grievence process.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat
You're kidding right? What do you think aircraft painted in Midwest colors with Midwest on the side of them are doing in MKE? There has been an interchange of equipment and pilots only it's been one sided. Won't last long though if we have our way in the grievence process.
I would hope that he/she is kidding. I can't believe someone could be that oblivious. If nothing else it would force one aircraft to stay in order to keep the certificate. If they don't keep the certificate open until the integration is done then I think the current grievance gets much more merit.
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