Colgan, union differ on cause of fatal crash

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12-16-2009 | 06:24 AM

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mooney

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"Mike Crook, director of safety for Colgan Air."

Look at the last name. Any coincidence he is in a management position?

edited for clarification.....Mike crook is a good guy, I'm making fun of the coincidence of his last name and him being in management, not his character. if that makes more sense

12-16-2009 | 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by newarkblows

The company truly is one of the worst i have seen and heard of in this industry. It isnt a small airline anymore and it has been a long time coming that they got their act together.

And we are talking about what, 3 years total 121 experience?

Tell me more about your vast aviation knowledge gained in your many years of flying.

12-16-2009 | 07:28 AM

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Swedish Blender

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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot

The DFDR shows the position of the yoke during the flight and is displayed on the video. The video obviously shows that he pulled back on the yoke.

I have seen the video. My point is the video doesn't show if he did it, or if it's due to trim. If the airplane is trimmed nose high and the autopilot kicks off, what happens to the yoke?

12-16-2009 | 08:09 AM

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HermannGraf

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I have seen the video. My point is the video doesn't show if he did it, or if it's due to trim. If the airplane is trimmed nose high and the autopilot kicks off, what happens to the yoke?

Hey, Interesting name you have.............

Ar du Svensk?
Kul att traffa andra fran Sverige har...........

Arbetar du for ett Amerikanskt flygbolag?

Jag flyger for Skywest och har bott i USA ett tag nu.

Ha det bra,

Hermann

12-16-2009 | 08:20 AM

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It appears that the Power levers are never fire-walled at MAX POWER?

The Attitude indicator is also showing a red down Arrow prompting the pilot to lower the nose to recover airspeed.....this is private pilot 101....no matter how hard you pull back the AC will not fly without air speed......

We are all humans and we make mistakes......it apears to be a salvageable stall......but I was not flying that fateful night and can only hope that I would have reacted differently

Gods Speed

12-16-2009 | 08:41 AM

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Swedish Blender

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Jag är inte svenska. Jag har flugit Saab 340 en hel del.

Jag har en god vän på UPS som är svenska dock, så förlåt mig om detta säger jag är en groda.

Han är på detta forum också.

Skål,
S

12-16-2009 | 08:44 AM

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12-16-2009 | 10:18 AM

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god dag , behaga stjälande inte min tråd , åsna mumsa av!

12-16-2009 | 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IQuitEagle

Yep, the training department at Colgan is really lacking. What's even more shocking, if true, is that the moron that ran it pre-accident has been hired by the FAA! Can anyone confirm this?

didnt you get fired from colgan?