Colgan, union differ on cause of fatal crash
12-14-2009 | 11:26 AM
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Colgan, union differ on cause of fatal crash
Colgan, union differ on cause of fatal crash : Home: The Buffalo News
Interesting news piece
Colgan condensed 4 pages into 1 paragraph on ice training?
Colgan wants to monitor cockpit conversations?
If thats the case, maybe the FAA should be allowed to monitor Colgan's management's cellphones and emails if we are going to remove all privacy?
Interesting news piece
Colgan condensed 4 pages into 1 paragraph on ice training?
Colgan wants to monitor cockpit conversations?
If thats the case, maybe the FAA should be allowed to monitor Colgan's management's cellphones and emails if we are going to remove all privacy?
12-14-2009 | 11:40 AM
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The very first paragraph sums it up.
Colgan Air says the probable cause of February's fatal crash in Clarence Center that claimed 50 lives was the pilots' "loss of situational awareness and failure to follow Colgan Air training and procedures, which led to a loss of control of the aircraft."
As part of a vastly subpar safety culture as a whole, Colgan has subpar selection, training, and checking of its pilots. They then had a crash that killed a bunch of people, and they're now trying to say its not their fault that they had an incapable crew in the front end of that airplane.
All in all, I find this whole thing completely disgusting. The attitude of money before all else, including human life, that these management teams have, along with their desire to throw absolutely everyone under the bus if something goes wrong, is incomprehensible. They should be in jail for the intentional disregard of the well being of the general population.
Colgan Air says the probable cause of February's fatal crash in Clarence Center that claimed 50 lives was the pilots' "loss of situational awareness and failure to follow Colgan Air training and procedures, which led to a loss of control of the aircraft."
As part of a vastly subpar safety culture as a whole, Colgan has subpar selection, training, and checking of its pilots. They then had a crash that killed a bunch of people, and they're now trying to say its not their fault that they had an incapable crew in the front end of that airplane.
All in all, I find this whole thing completely disgusting. The attitude of money before all else, including human life, that these management teams have, along with their desire to throw absolutely everyone under the bus if something goes wrong, is incomprehensible. They should be in jail for the intentional disregard of the well being of the general population.
12-14-2009 | 12:09 PM
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Beat me to it, but essentially the same article. Except it shows Colgan a little more willing to throw its employees under the bus.
Airline blames Buffalo crash on pilot error : 24 Hour Breaking News : The Buffalo News
Airline blames Buffalo crash on pilot error : 24 Hour Breaking News : The Buffalo News
12-14-2009 | 12:27 PM
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Thats what you get when passengers want to spend $49 dollars on a ticket...
Pax: "We want 20,000 hour pilots and flawless safety!"
Airlines: "ok, your ticket price just went up 500%"
Pax: "oh, um, nevermind"
Pax: "We want 20,000 hour pilots and flawless safety!"
Airlines: "ok, your ticket price just went up 500%"
Pax: "oh, um, nevermind"
12-14-2009 | 12:37 PM
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The very first paragraph sums it up.
Colgan Air says the probable cause of February's fatal crash in Clarence Center that claimed 50 lives was the pilots' "loss of situational awareness and failure to follow Colgan Air training and procedures, which led to a loss of control of the aircraft."
As part of a vastly subpar safety culture as a whole, Colgan has subpar selection, training, and checking of its pilots. They then had a crash that killed a bunch of people, and they're now trying to say its not their fault that they had an incapable crew in the front end of that airplane.
All in all, I find this whole thing completely disgusting. The attitude of money before all else, including human life, that these management teams have, along with their desire to throw absolutely everyone under the bus if something goes wrong, is incomprehensible. They should be in jail for the intentional disregard of the well being of the general population.
Colgan Air says the probable cause of February's fatal crash in Clarence Center that claimed 50 lives was the pilots' "loss of situational awareness and failure to follow Colgan Air training and procedures, which led to a loss of control of the aircraft."
As part of a vastly subpar safety culture as a whole, Colgan has subpar selection, training, and checking of its pilots. They then had a crash that killed a bunch of people, and they're now trying to say its not their fault that they had an incapable crew in the front end of that airplane.
All in all, I find this whole thing completely disgusting. The attitude of money before all else, including human life, that these management teams have, along with their desire to throw absolutely everyone under the bus if something goes wrong, is incomprehensible. They should be in jail for the intentional disregard of the well being of the general population.
12-14-2009 | 01:15 PM
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What, this is a shocking and new concept to you? The light switch is over there, turn it on. Name an industry, take your pick. I guarantee any you choose has put money before safety.
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12-14-2009 | 01:20 PM
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Why is it so disgusting? That's what did cause the crash. Loss of situational awareness and not following procedures, as in getting out of an aerodynamic stall. All the sides are going to try to go by their interests but at the end of the day, you can't blame management for the CA not looking at his speed and forgetting how to get out of a very basic approach to landing stall. Stress, working conditions might have had a factor but an approach to a landing stall is basic student pilot pre solo 101 stuff. It's very unfortunate for the pax but some times there are freak accidents, I would definitely look into colgan though if this happens again.
The very first paragraph sums it up.
Colgan Air says the probable cause of February's fatal crash in Clarence Center that claimed 50 lives was the pilots' "loss of situational awareness and failure to follow Colgan Air training and procedures, which led to a loss of control of the aircraft."
As part of a vastly subpar safety culture as a whole, Colgan has subpar selection, training, and checking of its pilots. They then had a crash that killed a bunch of people, and they're now trying to say its not their fault that they had an incapable crew in the front end of that airplane.
All in all, I find this whole thing completely disgusting. The attitude of money before all else, including human life, that these management teams have, along with their desire to throw absolutely everyone under the bus if something goes wrong, is incomprehensible. They should be in jail for the intentional disregard of the well being of the general population.
Colgan Air says the probable cause of February's fatal crash in Clarence Center that claimed 50 lives was the pilots' "loss of situational awareness and failure to follow Colgan Air training and procedures, which led to a loss of control of the aircraft."
As part of a vastly subpar safety culture as a whole, Colgan has subpar selection, training, and checking of its pilots. They then had a crash that killed a bunch of people, and they're now trying to say its not their fault that they had an incapable crew in the front end of that airplane.
All in all, I find this whole thing completely disgusting. The attitude of money before all else, including human life, that these management teams have, along with their desire to throw absolutely everyone under the bus if something goes wrong, is incomprehensible. They should be in jail for the intentional disregard of the well being of the general population.
12-14-2009 | 01:59 PM
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This was in no way a freak accident. It was caused by negligence or incompetence take your choice. The captain may have been a great pilot and nice person but no one was flying the aircraft that night. Don't insult the victims families by calling this a freak accident, it was completely avoidable.
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