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Old 01-15-2010 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
You're not shooting approaches over DAS.

Anyway, I'm talking about disconnecting the autopilot when you're going into SLW and the autopilot starts trying to turn you 30 degrees off the final approach course. Anyway, it's been a solid year and a half for me since I've flown that plane into Mexico (or flown it, period).
I understand, but my point is that you're talking to a pilot group who, until very recently, only flew Beech 1900s and Saab 340s. Telling us about how hard "green needle" approaches are with no autopilot is like complaining to a dentist about how bad one of your co-workers breath stinks. That dentist is thinking "I have my head in that all day long..."

Granted, I can't say that our Q FO group has that experience, as most of them were hired straight into the Q, but almost all of the captains are transitions from the Beech and/or Saab.
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Old 01-15-2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
I understand, but my point is that you're talking to a pilot group who, until very recently, only flew Beech 1900s and Saab 340s. Telling us about how hard "green needle" approaches are with no autopilot is like complaining to a dentist about how bad one of your co-workers breath stinks. That dentist is thinking "I have my head in that all day long..."

Granted, I can't say that our Q FO group has that experience, as most of them were hired straight into the Q, but almost all of the captains are transitions from the Beech and/or Saab.
Just to make it clear, I never said that you guys were unable to do the flying. Okay, I did, but definitely in jest. I was based in VT with my current company all summer and know that Colgan used to do the same route in airplanes with comparable equipment to my own. Nothing but respect from me for the flying you guys do. I know what it's like.

I was simply responding to Jetrecruiter's claim that the ERJ has a good FMS/AP to help out in Mexico. It does not.
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Old 01-15-2010 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
Just to make it clear, I never said that you guys were unable to do the flying. Okay, I did, but definitely in jest. I was based in VT with my current company all summer and know that Colgan used to do the same route in airplanes with comparable equipment to my own. Nothing but respect from me for the flying you guys do. I know what it's like.

I was simply responding to Jetrecruiter's claim that the ERJ has a good FMS/AP to help out in Mexico. It does not.
Ok, we're cool. If you buy me a beer.
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Old 01-15-2010 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
Telling us about how hard "green needle" approaches are with no autopilot is like complaining to a dentist about how bad one of your co-workers breath stinks. That dentist is thinking "I have my head in that all day long..."
That's really funny
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Old 01-15-2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
Ok, we're cool. If you buy me a beer.
I'm a pilot. What makes you think I have money?

Originally Posted by The Juice
That's really funny
It's okay, between 9K and 9L we both do some pretty Billy Badass flying.











...but we're still cooler.

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Old 01-15-2010 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
Either you're too lazy to read all 40 posts, or you don't read very well. Which one is it?
Since honesty is the best policy I will say it was a little bit of both. My only remaining hope is that you find it in your heart to forgive me.
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Old 01-16-2010 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Since honesty is the best policy I will say it was a little bit of both. My only remaining hope is that you find it in your heart to forgive me.
It's all in good fun lad, although to your credit, not a page after you wrote your post, it did turn into a couple of guys getting all personal about it, so I guess you called it!

Cheers.
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Old 01-16-2010 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by skidmark
I like your Skoal, but nothing wrong with mixing it up with a little Red Man Golden Blend. (hint)
I likey the red man as well... its just hard to find the stuff when mine is so conveniently available at the airport J.
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Old 01-17-2010 | 12:21 PM
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Colgan is now hiring 150 pilots. First class in Feb. Jus sayin.
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Old 01-24-2010 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by plasticpi
Green needles!?!?! Hand fly!?!?!?!?! Sketchy VORs!?!?!?!

Wait, why would you have to hand-fly due to sketchy VORs? Can you not turn a heading bug? DAS is about the king of Sketchy VORs (and yes, I have flown in Mexico before), and all that means is you can't use Nav mode. I'm sure your airplane has a Heading mode, too, yes?

You know what this sounds like? Every day ops for Saab/Beech/DC-9 drivers.

Edit: What I'm saying, I guess, is that I'm confident that any airline pilot is confident in their own ability to fly under these conditions, otherwise they have no business doing the job they do. That being said, knowing that a hand-flown non-radar arc/teardrop approach was going to happen during the flight, and I could pick the pilots, I'm grabbing guys with experience in the Beech.
LoL I've flown with exactly one Captain in my career that I would trust doing a back-country DME arc green-needles and raw-data in the mountains...Come to think of it, I've only seen exactly one respectable ILS into a major airport hand-flown. Nothing in this world scares me more than an Airline pilot. Scratch that, I meant an RJ pilot (guy I'm flying with now near-pulled a Colgan on approach yesterday)...I have all the respect for y'all bombing around on steam-gauges, and wish I could join you.
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