Accrueing seniority while on furlough
02-18-2010 | 06:49 PM
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Accrueing seniority while on furlough
At ASA do you accrue seniority while on furlough. I read the contract and it seems that you do. I just wanted to make sure I was understanding it correctly. If so, does that mean when I get recalled I will pick up on the pay scale where I would have been had I not been furloughed? Thanks
02-18-2010 | 06:56 PM
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At ASA do you accrue seniority while on furlough. I read the contract and it seems that you do. I just wanted to make sure I was understanding it correctly. If so, does that mean when I get recalled I will pick up on the pay scale where I would have been had I not been furloughed? Thanks
02-18-2010 | 07:33 PM
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At ASA do you accrue seniority while on furlough. I read the contract and it seems that you do. I just wanted to make sure I was understanding it correctly. If so, does that mean when I get recalled I will pick up on the pay scale where I would have been had I not been furloughed? Thanks
02-18-2010 | 07:51 PM
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"A furloughed pilot, including a pilot on voluntary furlough, will
retain and accrue seniority while on furlough and will retain
and accrue longevity while on furlough and receiving pay in
lieu of notice."
This is a line from the contract.
retain and accrue seniority while on furlough and will retain
and accrue longevity while on furlough and receiving pay in
lieu of notice."
This is a line from the contract.
02-18-2010 | 08:26 PM
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02-18-2010 | 08:59 PM
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This quote is a little odd to me. It is hard to actually know what the contract says since I don't work there. From the quote you posted it sounds like all furloughs accrue seniority, and then you would accrue longevity while on furlough and receiving pay in lieu of notice (whatever that means). You can clear this question up real quick by calling you're local union rep.
02-18-2010 | 11:53 PM
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So what that quote says about longevity is that if they don't give you the required days of notice and opt for pay in lieu of notice, you still accrue longevity for the period that they have to pay you.
02-19-2010 | 12:50 AM
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[quote=Purpleanga;766069]When you are furloughed you are worthless to the company, you don't work for them.
unless they need to count you for an arbitration for a wind-fall for the company.
unless they need to count you for an arbitration for a wind-fall for the company.
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02-19-2010 | 04:48 AM
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Negative.
§23.A.3 paraphrased says that people who have >1 year longevity are entitled to 30 days of advance notice (which the original 80 received even though we were not entitled to it) or could be furloughed at any time without notice, as long as pay is given for 30 days after the notice. Or it could be a portion thereof eg. 10 days notice and 20 days of pay, 1 day notice and 29 days of pay, 24 days of notice and 6 days of pay, etc.
§23.A.6 only guarantees 30 days of longevity from the day the furlough is announced.
For example, if ASA had announced the furlough on March 31 effective April 1, you (if >1 year) would accrue longevity through April 30.
§23.A.3 paraphrased says that people who have >1 year longevity are entitled to 30 days of advance notice (which the original 80 received even though we were not entitled to it) or could be furloughed at any time without notice, as long as pay is given for 30 days after the notice. Or it could be a portion thereof eg. 10 days notice and 20 days of pay, 1 day notice and 29 days of pay, 24 days of notice and 6 days of pay, etc.
§23.A.6 only guarantees 30 days of longevity from the day the furlough is announced.
For example, if ASA had announced the furlough on March 31 effective April 1, you (if >1 year) would accrue longevity through April 30.
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