The Realization of United Express
02-22-2010, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
And people wonder why expressjet has the highest costs in the industry and headed towards bankruptcy.
CAl decided that they wanted their aircraft cleaned and washed. That is what the OP was saying. Quit hating.
02-22-2010, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
It is up to the union to create the desire to want to have a union voted it. Other airlines did it because people wanted it in. I would say only about 10% of the people didn't care. The fact is alpa was and still isn't wanted at skywest and with any luck will never be tried again.
As far as I'm concerned management there takes on a "me too" attitude. Unless another company offers it they see no reason to either...and from what I've seen and read employees nod and smile.
02-22-2010, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
the 70 seaters were coming regardless i'm just happy we were able to give united such a good deal that all 65 of the 70 seaters up for grabs came to us. I know the whole "deal me an ace" thing and if that is what it took to make sure WE got it and not another airlines then I say we did the right thing.
02-22-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy
First of all XJT has been losing money for the past two years and will continue to lose money. It doesn't matter if you're getting "slightly" more money because it still doesn't help your ultra high costs.
2nd. I, like the MAJORITY of skywest are VERY Happy with our current situtation and shows because that last alpa drive was frimly rejected by over 60%. We have 0 pilots on furlough and are crediting almost 90 hours a month, life is good for skywest pilots.
Lastly you can poke fun at us for having 70 seaters but as you've seen in the last two years your company has shrunk because they are still set on only flying an obsolete airplane, and for your information we do get paid more to fly the 70 seaters than the 50 seaters.
We're all RJ pilots and this is an entry level job.
2nd. I, like the MAJORITY of skywest are VERY Happy with our current situtation and shows because that last alpa drive was frimly rejected by over 60%. We have 0 pilots on furlough and are crediting almost 90 hours a month, life is good for skywest pilots.
Lastly you can poke fun at us for having 70 seaters but as you've seen in the last two years your company has shrunk because they are still set on only flying an obsolete airplane, and for your information we do get paid more to fly the 70 seaters than the 50 seaters.
We're all RJ pilots and this is an entry level job.
BTW, this is not a dig at all SKW pilots. Many of you get it, and I hope you are successful with the next union drive.
02-22-2010, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetlinker
So what flavor is the SkyWest kool-aid this month? Dude, get a clue. You guys are riding the coattails of every other carriers union negotiated contract....
Most union regional pilots just pay their dues and get raped anyway by their MEC, the upper 15% of their own list, alpa national, and management. But they get a cool magazine...
How about if you absolutely MUST respond to Slaphappy that you leave the rest of us out of it...
Actually I kind of suspect that slaphappy works for ASA anyway.
02-22-2010, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
No we are not benefiting from every union carrier. A few yes, but not mesa, colgan, TSA, gojet, 9E, etc, etc.
Most union regional pilots just pay their dues and get raped anyway by their MEC, the upper 15% of their own list, alpa national, and management. But they get a cool magazine...
How about if you absolutely MUST respond to Slaphappy that you leave the rest of us out of it...
Actually I kind of suspect that slaphappy works for ASA anyway.
Most union regional pilots just pay their dues and get raped anyway by their MEC, the upper 15% of their own list, alpa national, and management. But they get a cool magazine...
How about if you absolutely MUST respond to Slaphappy that you leave the rest of us out of it...
Actually I kind of suspect that slaphappy works for ASA anyway.
I quote one of his gems:
Originally Posted by Slaphappy
The majority of people at skywest do NOT want a union. Its been done many times in the past and each time less and less people vote in favor. The last 2 years have shown the people skywest how lucky they are NOT to have one. Why would people vote for one now all of a sudden? I cam to skywest because that criminal organization known as Alpo wasnt' here. If you don't like it LEAVE!
I am not saying unions are the greatest thing ever. Just like any organization, it has some serious drawbacks. ALPA national, for example, I don't have warm and fuzzy feelings for. But XJT ALPA, for the most part, does a very good job, and we have many things as a pilot group we would not have if we weren't unionized. The positives heavily outweigh the drawbacks. Hell, form your own in house union if you don't want ALPA.
Last edited by Jetlinker; 02-22-2010 at 05:51 PM.
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