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Old 08-09-2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
I think every new hire has nothing to lose really by coming to Eagle. Its could be good thing or a bad thing, just like anywhere you go.

Ditto, in 3 years you could be captain and the spin off could still be a year or two away from taking effect and you could be at somewhere like UAL before the pain is felt. Unless you have some god given gift to see the future, you cant know whats going to happen. I personally think people are going to make out like bank robbers for the next few years, and by the time this thing hits the pilot group, it will be too late for anyone on property now to feel. These retirements are coming, and 10 years of well due movement will all hit at once plus the 5 years of more movement will hit, plus the fact that people have not wanted to come into this industry for the last 5+ years will hit. It will be 20 years of hiring in a 5 year span. I am not saying come here for an AA number, but come here because people will be going to AA and you will see that left seat FAST. The fact people will leave quickly is worth 10 times more than some long shot AA slot. The idiots who say at least you get an AA slot if you goto eagle in a form of sarcasm are complete idiots. The AA 'slot' for everyone in the left seat not is worth a ton to you right now, not the slot itself.

This spin off will take awhile, and right now we cant even staff what we have flying, stop with the sky is falling already.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stbloc
I agree. But with all the others hiring I would look at options. You don't want to get stuck in an airline decreasing its fleet. Eagle has many guys who are lifers which will bring upgrade time back up. If Eagle gives you the best QQL I say go for it. If your chasing upgrade go somewhere else. Its a crap shoot with many variables.
Every airline is a crap shoot with many variables. Guys went to lakes for a fast upgrade and are 3 year FOs for dirt pay now.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 06:39 PM
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I'm scheduled to interview in a few weeks...where is the junior base? I figure it depends on what they put you in. If I'm hired, what are my chances of getting ORD? Like any other regional job, you have to make the best of it. Like someone said earlier, it's a good stepping stone to other flying.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker402
I'm scheduled to interview in a few weeks...where is the junior base? I figure it depends on what they put you in. If I'm hired, what are my chances of getting ORD? Like any other regional job, you have to make the best of it. Like someone said earlier, it's a good stepping stone to other flying.

Pretty good shot at ORD. Even if you don't get it right off the bat you could always base transfer or trade with another pilot. There shouldn't be many (if any for that matter) ATRs for the rest of the summer. Not really sure what the junior base would be...Maybe MIA or DFW EMJ? Seems like a lot of new hires have been going there. But I could be wrong!
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Old 08-09-2011 | 07:02 PM
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I would not let the naysayers scare anyone from Eagle. Almost everyone I speak to, senior captains, plan to flow to AA. The fear grenade has really worked. And on the other hand, I recently had a FAA jump seater tell me that commercial pilot certificates awards are down by 85% for the past five years. Every regional pilot I speak with tell me that their airlines are understaff. I have heard stories of how management blames weather, sick calls, etc... The point being, AMR will have a tough time farming out the flying due to a lack of qualified personal to man the cockpit.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bcpilot
I got only one auto response, shotgun email that we have recieved your application, that was 29 days ago.

I know, I am waiting for that email which says "REVIEWING YOUR APP IN 2 -5 DAYS

Yeah I have checked my app 3 times, updated the app also.

Should I call HR, any suggestions.......
You should call...I got the initial e-mail saying my application was being reviewed and then got another e-mail a few days later to call and schedule an interview. I would think that if you are at the minimums, then you should get an invite also.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 07:49 PM
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About to retire from AF with 4000 hours. I live in Ft Worth and am thinking of applying to AE. What is QOL in DFW? What kind of pay can I expect for first couple of years? What does the crystal ball show about the future of AE with AA spinning them off?
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Old 08-09-2011 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
Ditto, in 3 years you could be captain and the spin off could still be a year or two away from taking effect and you could be at somewhere like UAL before the pain is felt. Unless you have some god given gift to see the future, you cant know whats going to happen. I personally think people are going to make out like bank robbers for the next few years, and by the time this thing hits the pilot group, it will be too late for anyone on property now to feel. These retirements are coming, and 10 years of well due movement will all hit at once plus the 5 years of more movement will hit, plus the fact that people have not wanted to come into this industry for the last 5+ years will hit. It will be 20 years of hiring in a 5 year span. I am not saying come here for an AA number, but come here because people will be going to AA and you will see that left seat FAST. The fact people will leave quickly is worth 10 times more than some long shot AA slot. The idiots who say at least you get an AA slot if you goto eagle in a form of sarcasm are complete idiots. The AA 'slot' for everyone in the left seat not is worth a ton to you right now, not the slot itself.

This spin off will take awhile, and right now we cant even staff what we have flying, stop with the sky is falling already.
fully agree
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Old 08-09-2011 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rickt86
Ditto, in 3 years you could be captain and the spin off could still be a year or two away from taking effect and you could be at somewhere like UAL before the pain is felt. Unless you have some god given gift to see the future, you cant know whats going to happen. I personally think people are going to make out like bank robbers for the next few years, and by the time this thing hits the pilot group, it will be too late for anyone on property now to feel. These retirements are coming, and 10 years of well due movement will all hit at once plus the 5 years of more movement will hit, plus the fact that people have not wanted to come into this industry for the last 5+ years will hit. It will be 20 years of hiring in a 5 year span. I am not saying come here for an AA number, but come here because people will be going to AA and you will see that left seat FAST. The fact people will leave quickly is worth 10 times more than some long shot AA slot. The idiots who say at least you get an AA slot if you goto eagle in a form of sarcasm are complete idiots. The AA 'slot' for everyone in the left seat not is worth a ton to you right now, not the slot itself.

This spin off will take awhile, and right now we cant even staff what we have flying, stop with the sky is falling already.
Agree with you.

Anyway we don't have that much 135's out there, and AMR is keeping the fleet and the debt. I think movement will be faster than everybody thinks. In one year I already moved 250 numbers up! and every month my number keep moving up. As soon as the next group of flow thru guys start going is a lot of movement. I hope AA starts hiring next year so we can keep the same movement. I don't want to fly for AA so i just want the people above me go + the attrition for other airlines it will move faster than we think.
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Old 08-10-2011 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
In one year I already moved 250 numbers up! and every month my number keep moving up.
In 2 months I have moved up over 100 numbers... The movement is there. And the planned hiring is still requiring a LOT of pilots over the next 18 months.... Now that COULD change on a moment's notice, but right now everything is moving Along....
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