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11-13-2010 | 06:57 PM
#461
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I honestly think the company already knows...why else are they hiring the quantities they are?
I can tell you right now the ATR is overstaffed to the limit.
11-13-2010 | 07:04 PM
#462
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Also..it looks like there are an additional 87 upgrades in this bid taking out the "no backfills"...meaning eagle's upgrade (based on the most senior guy i see on the final awards for nov) an august or september 05 hire..only about 30 more and we're into 06 for upgrades
11-13-2010 | 09:41 PM
#463
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Also..it looks like there are an additional 87 upgrades in this bid taking out the "no backfills"...meaning eagle's upgrade (based on the most senior guy i see on the final awards for nov) an august or september 05 hire..only about 30 more and we're into 06 for upgrades
So ATRs are overstaffed? So this class can be all jet?
11-14-2010 | 05:07 AM
#464
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I hope that the 2010s can upgrade in 3 years, but I wouldnt bet the farm on it
Things are dropping relatively quickly because we had a hiring gap from 2001-2004, and we had a slow year of hiring in 2005. There are a ton of 2006 DOHs (around 300 on the seniority list) so that will be a big chunk of pilots to go through for upgrades. I would be prepared for at least 6yrs in the right seat if hired today. Who knows what will actually happen though!
11-14-2010 | 05:27 AM
#465
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From: B-737 CA
Waaay too many variables to guess upgrade times for new hires. It could be anywhere between 3 years and never.
If the majors start hiring (like US Air just announced), then we could really some significant movement.
If the majors start hiring (like US Air just announced), then we could really some significant movement.
11-14-2010 | 05:34 AM
#466
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I believe the Nov 8 class was all jet (11 NFC 12 OFE)
I hope that the 2010s can upgrade in 3 years, but I wouldnt bet the farm on it Things are dropping relatively quickly because we had a hiring gap from 2001-2004, and we had a slow year of hiring in 2005. There are a ton of 2006 DOHs (around 300 on the seniority list) so that will be a big chunk of pilots to go through for upgrades. I would be prepared for at least 6yrs in the right seat if hired today. Who knows what will actually happen though!
I hope that the 2010s can upgrade in 3 years, but I wouldnt bet the farm on it
Things are dropping relatively quickly because we had a hiring gap from 2001-2004, and we had a slow year of hiring in 2005. There are a ton of 2006 DOHs (around 300 on the seniority list) so that will be a big chunk of pilots to go through for upgrades. I would be prepared for at least 6yrs in the right seat if hired today. Who knows what will actually happen though!There will be a lot of those new CA that will have more than 1 year flying as CA so they probably try to move. Also the senior FO will try to move on to the majors. Making us, "today" new hires, to be the seniors or new hired CA, and the ones that get hired next year as a line holder FOs.
Just my thought. That's why you should get in the boat ASAP
11-14-2010 | 06:57 AM
#467
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Also..it looks like there are an additional 87 upgrades in this bid taking out the "no backfills"...meaning eagle's upgrade (based on the most senior guy i see on the final awards for nov) an august or september 05 hire..only about 30 more and we're into 06 for upgrades
11-14-2010 | 07:24 AM
#469
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From: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737
I took all the captain vacancies and subtracted the captain slots that they're not backfilling....in my mind that tells you how many new upgrades they need..am i doing that wrong? How'd you get 50?
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