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#5391
FACTS only here.
I've heard this from Eagle pilots directly whom I know and THEY say they hear it from guys they fly with, in the crewrooms and on certain websites. Some of it is blatent and some of it is more veiled, but it's there. These are pilots who still want to come to AA, but are seeing too many of their Eagle brethren becoming increasingly intoxicated at the thought of E-190's and some are even saying they'd like the A319 orders slated for AA switched over to Eagle.
Interesting you talk about "divide and conquer", yet are in total denial of the sympathetic environment of enablers that you are in the midst of. It might be time to look around, TRULY open your eyes and see a critical part of the problem. You're either part of thatches problem or part of its solution. Right now, I don't see any solution there.
I've heard this from Eagle pilots directly whom I know and THEY say they hear it from guys they fly with, in the crewrooms and on certain websites. Some of it is blatent and some of it is more veiled, but it's there. These are pilots who still want to come to AA, but are seeing too many of their Eagle brethren becoming increasingly intoxicated at the thought of E-190's and some are even saying they'd like the A319 orders slated for AA switched over to Eagle.
Interesting you talk about "divide and conquer", yet are in total denial of the sympathetic environment of enablers that you are in the midst of. It might be time to look around, TRULY open your eyes and see a critical part of the problem. You're either part of thatches problem or part of its solution. Right now, I don't see any solution there.
As long as it's a reliable source. I heard from an LA guy that eagle is gonna get 120 min etops and fly the crj to hawaii. I also heard from a JFK guy that the 135 is gonna replace the 777 on the london flights. I heard it from my fathers brother's nephew's son's former roomate. So clearly fact. My opinion stop being the problem because you definitely aren't the solution.
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#5392
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#5393
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As long as it's a reliable source. I heard from an LA guy that eagle is gonna get 120 min etops and fly the crj to hawaii. I also heard from a JFK guy that the 135 is gonna replace the 777 on the london flights. I heard it from my fathers brother's nephew's son's former roomate. So clearly fact. My opinion stop being the problem because you definitely aren't the solution.
#5394
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Suffice it to say there is a reason I used the "ignore" function on that guy. Honest question, is there any way to block the posts that someone makes on the threads, or am I forced to see their username and bypass them manually with the mk 1 eyeball? Maybe I could be hypnotized so when his posts come up, I will think I was out fishing.....
#5396
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They certainly could make room for them at the schoolhouse. Of course, I'd think being in Chapter 11, they'd have to get approval for that expenditure from the court.
At any rate, that would seem to indicate AMR would intend to operate those jets in house and then of course, they'd have to lay down major bucks for an order of airplanes to go with the sims. AA already has a fleet captain and training manager going through Airbus training in Miami, yet curiously hasn't ordered any sims for the bus as far as I heard. Now, they've ordered sims for an aircraft they have no orders for and no fleet support structure at either AA or AE ?
Hmmmm..........
#5397
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From: 737 CA
From Air Transport World:
By Karen Walker
A boom sales time lies ahead for the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737MAX, but the era of the regional jet is over.
Those were among the key messages in an insightful presentation by Teal Group VP and aviation analyst Richard Aboulafia at an Aero Club luncheon in Washington on Friday.
Aboulafia sees a “big bull market” for the neo and MAX in 2016-2017, especially in North America as airlines, spurred (and horrified) by $100+ per gallon prices for fuel, rush to replace their legacy fleets.
“If you are still flying a 737-300 and the other guy is flying a neo or MAX, then you are toast,” he said.
He said fuel burn and technology were the only things left to US carriers to further cut costs, having stripped out all excess cost items, such as blankets, in the system-wide endeavor to become low cost carriers.
Aboulafia acknowledged there could be a bit of a dip in orders in the 2014-2015 period, but said there was would be really fast ramp-up after that.
Third-party financing will be critical to this boom, he added.
But Aboulafia had only pessimism for the outlook for regional jets. “Who are the losers? Oh my God, the regionals,” he said. The days of multiple regional-jet hubs across North America are not coming back and the focus will be on getting out of the regional market, with the exception of the Russians. Bombardier has a potential window of opportunity with its C-Series, but it has to act now. “This refleeting thing will be a tipping point,” he said.
By Karen Walker
A boom sales time lies ahead for the Airbus A320neo and Boeing 737MAX, but the era of the regional jet is over.
Those were among the key messages in an insightful presentation by Teal Group VP and aviation analyst Richard Aboulafia at an Aero Club luncheon in Washington on Friday.
Aboulafia sees a “big bull market” for the neo and MAX in 2016-2017, especially in North America as airlines, spurred (and horrified) by $100+ per gallon prices for fuel, rush to replace their legacy fleets.
“If you are still flying a 737-300 and the other guy is flying a neo or MAX, then you are toast,” he said.
He said fuel burn and technology were the only things left to US carriers to further cut costs, having stripped out all excess cost items, such as blankets, in the system-wide endeavor to become low cost carriers.
Aboulafia acknowledged there could be a bit of a dip in orders in the 2014-2015 period, but said there was would be really fast ramp-up after that.
Third-party financing will be critical to this boom, he added.
But Aboulafia had only pessimism for the outlook for regional jets. “Who are the losers? Oh my God, the regionals,” he said. The days of multiple regional-jet hubs across North America are not coming back and the focus will be on getting out of the regional market, with the exception of the Russians. Bombardier has a potential window of opportunity with its C-Series, but it has to act now. “This refleeting thing will be a tipping point,” he said.
#5398
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I have to laugh at these prognosticators! They always KNOW what's going to happen in the future. They speak with SUCH authority. I've been listening to these jokers for more than 20 years. I used to hang on their every word (!), until I realized they were just as clueless about the future of our industry as the rest of us.
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Well, if ATW says it's so, it must be. 
Seriously though, I certainly hope so, but since AMR has made all the wrong decisions over the last decade, one wonders if anything will change. That being said, AMR's scope proposal loads up on larger RJ's and worse yet, demands a blank checke on code-sharing.
Reading that article implies if the first blunder doesn't kill mainline jobs, the other possibility might. Eagle could be the domestic code-share operator of the Airbuses and that would bs bad for UAL and DAL, unless their labor costs were made competitive.

Seriously though, I certainly hope so, but since AMR has made all the wrong decisions over the last decade, one wonders if anything will change. That being said, AMR's scope proposal loads up on larger RJ's and worse yet, demands a blank checke on code-sharing.
Reading that article implies if the first blunder doesn't kill mainline jobs, the other possibility might. Eagle could be the domestic code-share operator of the Airbuses and that would bs bad for UAL and DAL, unless their labor costs were made competitive.
#5400
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From: 737 CA
Boyd has been beating the RJ demise drum for some time now and DAL seems to be heading in that direction. A career at Comair is not looking near as lucrative as it once was
They should ask the DAL MEC to put in a word for preferential hiring, but only if they resign their number of course.
Sled
They should ask the DAL MEC to put in a word for preferential hiring, but only if they resign their number of course. Sled
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